Scottish v English football

[Deleted member 15344]

Yeah the modern game is too fast for refs to make so many big decisions.
But when you see refs not using the help they already have,(like in the Liverpool v West Ham game) when the ref clearly ignored the linesman it makes you wonder.

Exactly - the linesman even spotted the foul but was ignored by the ref.

Refs i believe have got very arrogant and are protected by that spineless pregnant fish Riley

 

[Slime]

refs just need to be held accountable - currently they arent and are protected - football would be ruined by adding more technology into it

Its not a game that allows "natural breaks" for vid replays to be used.

The ref has had a say in all the big games so far this season

It's the players who should be held accountable.
How are refs supposed to cope with all those professional athletes who insist on cheating at every opportunity.
And then we here that it doesn't pay to be an honest footballer, what hope is there?


Slime.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It's the players who should be held accountable.
How are refs supposed to cope with all those professional athletes who insist on cheating at every opportunity.
And then we here that it doesn't pay to be an honest footballer, what hope is there?


Slime.

Players will try as much as they are allowed and yes they need to be held accountable for their actions

When players make mistakes their clubs suffer and they suffer

When a ref makes a mistake the clubs also suffer.

Yes players dive and try and foul etc - been doing that for decades

But that doesnt excuse poor referring

 

[Slime]

Players will try as much as they are allowed and yes they need to be held accountable for their actions
When players make mistakes their clubs suffer and they suffer
When a ref makes a mistake the clubs also suffer.
Yes players dive and try and foul etc - been doing that for decades

But that doesnt excuse poor referring

I'm certainly not excusing poor refereeing, but, if the players want a better standard of refereeing they have to help.
Players & managers have no right to complain about the officials when they are the ones who openly promote cheating.


Slime.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm certainly not excusing poor refereeing, but, if the players want a better standard of refereeing they have to help.
Players & managers have no right to complain about the officials when they are the ones who openly promote cheating.


Slime.

Openly promote cheating ! Who has promoted cheating ?

The word "cheating" is getting thrown around far too easily currently

I guess you believe committing a foul is cheating

If there was a better standard of referring then the dives and correct decisions would be made and the players wouldnt get away with stuff on the pitch.

 

[Slime]

Openly promote cheating ! Who has promoted cheating ?

The word "cheating" is getting thrown around far too easily currently

I guess you believe committing a foul is cheating

If there was a better standard of referring then the dives and correct decisions would be made and the players wouldnt get away with stuff on the pitch.

Many managers have advocated going down in the penalty area if contact is felt. Just because there is contact it doesn't have to bring a player down, the player often makes that decision depending where abouts on the pitch he is or whether his opponent is on a yellow card or not.
Jarvis has just been criticised for being 'too honest'!

Not necessarily. If a foul is deliberate, that's cheating. If a foul is accidental, that's breaking the rules, but not cheating.

If the players didn't dive it wouldn't be an issue & the refs could concentrate more on the game than on the gamesmanship!

You carry on blaming the referees, I'll carry on blaming the players and the managers.


Slime.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

On balance, and removing my extreme militance, this is good news, for Scottish football,Hertz, and dare I say it, Hibs.Relegation and a couple of seasons down, cloth cut accordingly and living within means.A level playing field.

Good news

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Good news

The Rangers, Hearts, Dunfermilne and Hibs in the SCL next year could make it quite exciting.

 

[Snelly]

Jose M encourages his players to hound officials and to dive.

That is cheating and poor behaviour.


What a great example for children who watch.


Absolutely pathetic.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Jose M encourages his players to hound officials and to dive.

That is cheating and poor behaviour.


What a great example for children who watch.


Absolutely pathetic.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ays-he-thinks-players-who-dive-are-a-disgrace

Lots of sports have incidents which aren't good examples to kids - golf included.

 

[Snelly]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ays-he-thinks-players-who-dive-are-a-disgrace

Lots of sports have incidents which aren't good examples to kids - golf included.

Name some more sports with relatively comparable media coverage where the manager deliberately asks the teams to harass officials and blatantly cheat for advantage then.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Name some more sports with relatively comparable media coverage where the manager deliberately asks the teams to harass officials and blatantly cheat for advantage then.

Blood gate in rugby

Ball tampering in cricket

Drugs in athletics

I'm guessing you can prove your accusations above ?

 

[Snelly]

Blood gate in rugby

Ball tampering in cricket

Drugs in athletics

I'm guessing you can prove your accusations above ?

Oh yes. Silly me.

You are right after all. Football is fine....

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Oh yes. Silly me.

You are right after all. Football is fine....

When did I say football was fine ?

Do you have the proof then ?

 

[Snelly]

When did I say football was fine ?

Do you have the proof then ?

I don't care.

You could have an argument in an empty room Phil.

 

[Foxholer]

I don't care.

You could have an argument in an empty room Phil.

And a dark one at that!

I at least need the lights on!

Btw. Schrodinger's Cat logic notwithstanding, it wouldn't be empty would it! And would anyone know? :whoo: Or care?

 

[Slime]

Nurse ............................. he's escaped again & he's forgotten to take his medication!


Slime.

 

[Foxholer]

Blood gate in rugby

Ball tampering in cricket

Drugs in athletics

I'm guessing you can prove your accusations above ?

There will always be occasional 'one-off's and these are generally dealt with very severely. The Blood Gate certainly was! Ball Tampering certainly has been - when identified - though less severely than I would like.

Drugs in Athletics are an individual issue, not a Team one. Cycling, where it was a team one, seems to be getting its house in order, but hard to tell.

I think kids are actually pretty clued up as to what is 'good example' and what is 'bad example'! Spitting aside, I think players - whatever sport - should be allowed to show reasonable emotion. That doesn't mean they should be allowed to man-handle the Ref/Umpire though.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What really bugs me is when the whole world can see an obvious throw in/corner to one side and the opposing player still tries to claim it.
Happens in both countries.

 

[MegaSteve]

What really bugs me is when the whole world can see an obvious throw in/corner to one side and the opposing player still tries to claim it.
Happens in both countries.

Coached into them right from junior level...
Happens all over the world...
Doesn't make it any less annoying though ...