Salmond v Darling

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
And I wonder if - in unlikely event of a YES - Darling would join Soapies 'Team Scotland' (naff) and so push for Currency Union. Same question asked of Dougie Alexander this morning. Ducked.

I enjoyed when at one point last night Darling tried to stop Salmon in full flow with a 'Haud oan...'
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Darling and Alexander, two of the poshest folk ever bred in Scotland.I'd rather they were kept far away from any post yest victory negotiations...utter hatred for independence, presided over £500 Billion being added to UK debt and not very good politicians.
 
I tried to watch the debate but ended up getting frustrated and irritated by the constant talking over each other's questions / 'answers' (were any of the questions actually answered fully and coherently?) / statements. Given how serious Scottish Independence actually is to the fate of the Union and the impact a Yes vote has on 4 nations not just one, I thought this was quite shameful of both Salmond and Darling, but probably an indication of how low British politics has fallen over the last 20-30 years.

As a result, I actually came away feeling quite sorry for those in Scotland with a vote having to make a decision based on the arguments of two - IMO - very poor politicians.
 
Adi2Dassler said:
Darling and Alexander, two of the poshest folk ever bred in Scotland.I'd rather they were kept far away from any post yest victory negotiations...utter hatred for independence, presided over £500 Billion being added to UK debt and not very good politicians.
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is this the man who single handedly (not quite but he was key) sorted out the RBS fiasco, that could have been utterly devastating for the whole country if he/they didnt do what they did.

And whats posh got to do with anything in this debate?
 
CMAC said:
is this the man who single handedly (not quite but he was key) sorted out the RBS fiasco, that could have been utterly devastating for the whole country if he/they didnt do what they did.

And whats posh got to do with anything in this debate?
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Thats right.Darling presided over the financial services during the bank disaster, alongside Gordon Brown they created the perfect storm then begged the BoE and US Treasury to sort it out.

And being posh hasn't really got anything to do with it, except the way he and Alexander says Scotland goes right thru me.
 
Darling also claimed during the previous referendum on indy that tear gas will be deployed if we vote yes and mass rapes will occur.
 
I'm a bit surprised Salmond didn't pull Darling up on the figure of 8000 Coulport and Faslane jobs that will go. Yes in time if things continue as they are there may well be 8000 jobs there and thereabouts supporting the facilities - but at the moment there are not - indeed Darling said as much. Though the implication was that 8000 folks would lose their jobs if Trident and the warheads go - ignoring the new SDF jobs that would be created. Many of the jobs don't exist yet and an individual can't lose a job that he doesn't have and indeed doesn't actually exist.
 
Did anyone else notice that during Darling's cross-examination of Salmond he was visibly shaking? He was holding his notes in his hand for a few seconds and you could see them flapping about, I think he was then aware of this and decided to then sit the notes back down on the lectern so as to not make it obvious, whereas Salmond was cool as a cucumber for the duration. Darling must know himself that
he got his pants pulled down last night surely?

I laugh at those saying Salmond used "bully boy tactics" when Darling continually pointed fingers and referred to Alex as "he" or "him"....boorish and counter productive.

Darling was a shambles.
 
Dodger said:
Did anyone else notice that during Darling's cross-examination of Salmond he was visibly shaking? He was holding his notes in his hand for a few seconds and you could see them flapping about, I think he was then aware of this and decided to then sit the notes back down on the lectern so as to not make it obvious, whereas Salmond was cool as a cucumber for the duration. Darling must know himself that
he got his pants pulled down last night surely?

I laugh at those saying Salmond used "bully boy tactics" when Darling continually pointed fingers and referred to Alex as "he" or "him"....boorish and counter productive.

Darling was a shambles.
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They were both pathetic at debating and the chair was hopeless in controlling it. Salmond just didn't shut up and interrupted all the time. IMO it was a shambles and not worth of air time.
 
SocketRocket said:
True.
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Nothing to do with Westminster Cameron said back then - yeh right. Like all the promises of more stuff heading Holyrood's way following a NO will be nothing to do with Westminster - somehow Holyrood will go to Westminster and just take it. I f you have a vote what makes you believe the Westminster promises? And if you don't want more powers are you happy that they might not turn up - what would that say to those voting NO expecting these new powers? Trouble ahead I fear when there is a NO.
 
Maybe if things look really tight BT will field their secret weapon - the next UK Prime Minister - Big Boris. Would be good to see him up against Salmond's pocket battleship of a side-kick - Nicola Sturgeon.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Maybe if things look really tight BT will field their secret weapon - the next UK Prime Minister - Big Boris. Would be good to see him up against Salmond's pocket battleship of a side-kick - Nicola Sturgeon.
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I imagine the thought of that fool Boris as next PM will spur a few into the yes camp i should think.
 
patricks148 said:
I imagine the thought of that fool Boris as next PM will spur a few into the yes camp i should think.
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...and the YES campaign don't even have to raise as a risk the possibility/probability of BorisJ being next Prime Minister. The Scottish electorate are I am sure well aware of that - just so happens that at the moment it's not at the forefront of everyone's thinking.

But as a NO vote looms...

the prospect of a ToryUKIP coalition government led by Farage and BorisJ might cause some to pause...

and reflect...

on what could be...
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
...and the YES campaign don't even have to raise as a risk the possibility/probability of BorisJ being next Prime Minister. The Scottish electorate are I am sure well aware of that - just so happens that at the moment it's not at the forefront of everyone's thinking.

But as a NO vote looms...

the prospect of a ToryUKIP coalition government led by Farage and BorisJ might cause some to pause...

and reflect...

on what could be...
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its a frightening prospect and they could be in power till kingdom after a yes vote
 
6inchcup said:
because countries should have a capital letter to start same as names and days of the week,plus it gives you something to moan about what i write as per normal.
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I said WORDS not Letters :rolleyes:

I know that Wales should have a CAPITAL letter but why then use them for the whole word?
 
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