richy
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Have they mentioned what Scotland would do about defence and the Armed Forces?
Salmond v Darling
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Doon frae Troon
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A proposed scaled down Army/Navy/Air Force more fitting to the size of the country. Join NATO.
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Create their own and of course use aircraft and ships given to them by the UK
Believe they wanted two Sqn's of Typhoons , 4 Merlins , two ships and 4 C130's etc
Of course the wages they pay would be considerably less because they wouldn't need to pay the "X Factor"
Beezerk
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Where would the troops come from? I very much doubt current Scottish troops in the British army would leave to be in Scotland's Home Guard.
Someone asked a good question on the radio debate this morning. If the Yes vote goes through and it all goes tats up for Salmond and co in a few years, what would happen when Labour get into power? Would they not follow policies similar to the ones in Westminster?
Good question and 'probably' would be my guess, however, they would be copying and following as opposed to being told what to do.......allegedly.
Slab
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Is that the same 'given to them' as we'd know from a divorce where joint assets are shared between each party
Serious question, I genuinely don't know how it works but your phrasing sounds like its maybe some other arrangement
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Guess it would be like shared assets ?
It's what is written in Salmonds white paper - whether it actually would happen is another matter
Not sure about the military bases in Scotland - not sure how ownership of them is arranged at the moment
chrisd
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Haven't they had the vote yet? I do wish they'd get on with it! :lol:
Amazing how many English want to hang onto to their Cousins and many without a really good reasoning behind it.
I wonder what the main reason is? Fear?
The odd thing I find is that so many are concentrating on Salmond when in reality it is not him or his party we are voting for or against.
I wonder what the main reason is? Fear?
The odd thing I find is that so many are concentrating on Salmond when in reality it is not him or his party we are voting for or against.
Foxholer
Blackballed
And, more importantly, deciding which ones, if any, to implement based on what they considered best for Scotland! At least hopefully.
As Dodger posted, it's not about approval of Salmond. It's about independence (from Westminster)!
There's actually potential, though unlikely imo and certainly not immediately, for SNP to self-destruct whichever way the vote goes - either because the goal is perceived to have been achieved, or because they failed to achieve it!
jp5
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I think most English really couldn't give two figs what Scotland decides to do and for the majority don't think it'll have any impact at all.
Yes, I can see that from a straw poll of what's happening on this board.:mmm:
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I care about the vote
I would like to see the UK remain as one whole unity of strength
Believe we are great together and a powerful nation
Have worked alongside Scottish , welsh and Irish for 2 decades and the unity and bond between them all is something very special
Maybe it's all sentimental reasons because I don't have facts and figures but it's why I hope and I'm fact expect a no vote
I would like to see the UK remain as one whole unity of strength
Believe we are great together and a powerful nation
Have worked alongside Scottish , welsh and Irish for 2 decades and the unity and bond between them all is something very special
Maybe it's all sentimental reasons because I don't have facts and figures but it's why I hope and I'm fact expect a no vote
SwingsitlikeHogan
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...and so would rise a Scottish Labour Party or maybe a Scottish Social Democratic party. Can't see Scottish electorate in an iScotland putting up with a Labour Government in Holyrood that mirrored Westminster Labour policies. Maybe it would.
But one way or another Scotland would get the government it voted for and more likely to get one with policies that more closely suited the thinking and wishes of the electorate. Whether it would be of any use or of any good is another matter.
MegaSteve
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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Anyway - back to Salmond v Darling. I thought Darling was too uptight and nervous and that Salmond was the opposite - a bit too slouchy, casual and a touch too cocky.
bordering on smarmy and sleezy (mates of dopey and grumpy)
Doon frae Troon
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I doubt it, Scotland never really embraced 'New Labour'.
Hence the Scottish Labour partys demise and the rise of the SNP.
What many south of the border fail to understand is that the SNP have managed Scotland very well for the last 5 years. They are popular, the Scottish electrol system was designed so that there would not be a majority party.
So take the independence bit away and you have a party with a proven record of delivering popular policies on budget.
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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I can't disagree with you on that - if I were voting I'd be grateful that voting YES isn't a vote for Salmond.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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And I wonder if - in unlikely event of a YES - Darling would join Soapies 'Team Scotland' (naff) and so push for Currency Union. Same question asked of Dougie Alexander this morning. Ducked.
I enjoyed when at one point last night Darling tried to stop Salmon in full flow with a 'Haud oan...'
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