rosecott
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Apropos of nothing, BBC website calls him Darlnig.
Salmond v Darling
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Apropos of nothing, BBC website calls him Darlnig.
No doubt the EBC will spin this as a score draw.
The BBC spin machine will be spinning hugely tonight of that there is no doubt.
The BBC spin machine will be spinning hugely tonight of that there is no doubt.
ICM POll saying 71% think Salmond won to 29% Darling. A humping.
Doon frae Troon
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100,000 additional Scottish children will be in poverty this year, figures released by children's charities.
Good points scorer by Salmond.
Good points scorer by Salmond.
Doon frae Troon
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FGS delete this post before Hogan sees it.:lol:
SocketRocket
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Damning inditement to the Scottish Parliament!
Darlings team now desperately looking for the suspended Polish sub now.....
williamalex1
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I think Salmond won tonight, but i'm still not convinced.
Salmond by a country mile, and then some.
I thought Darling did a very poor job of explaining why you need control of your own currency. And its Brinksmanship of Salmond to assume Scotland will have the backing of the Bank of England post yes. Is that really a safe risk?
I thought Darling did a very poor job of explaining why you need control of your own currency. And its Brinksmanship of Salmond to assume Scotland will have the backing of the Bank of England post yes. Is that really a safe risk?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Sure enough he did and as I suspected would happen it didn't go down that well with the audience when he kept going back to it.
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I wonder how many people actually change their vote based on these arguments ( sorry debates )
SocketRocket
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Neither would concede anything, they were constantly interrupting each other and speaking rubbish!
And that was only the audience
And that was only the audience
ger147
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I have a vote, I haven't decided yet how to vote, I watched the Man City vs Liverpool game.
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As someone with a vote and still undecided, I thought Salmond did pretty well, Darling less so, The currency union idea is not new and is being too negatively used by the no campaign imo as a scare tactic - when both Australia and Canada gained independence they entered a currency union with the UK until setting up their own currencies, has been done dozens of times for countries going alone. I don't think currency is that important to this. Think the yes vote will be up a bit after today. Could be the Union does neither country any good anymore, Scots moan about Westminster domination and wasting billions on WMD and English moan about supporting freeloading Scots with disproportionate welfare through Barnet. Key for the no campaign imo is turnout, the yes voters will all turn out, the no voters may not be so motivated as they're basically voting for the status quo. Could be a really really close one. Amazing how this can all be traced back to Tony Blair and his illegal wars - Scotland was a Labour stronghold until then and people got so hacked off with Tony they voted SNP in Holyrood elections as basically a protest vote - giving Eck a mandate for a referendum on independence, now its here the mood has changed and it could be the splitting of the UK. Politics has never been more interesting in Scotland and has engaged a normally apathetic public which must be good. When devolution was put in place in the 1990's Labour thought it would be the end of the independence debate, how wrong they were! Still don't know which way to vote though!
6inchcup
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will we in ENGLAND get a vote to let SCOTLAND decide what they will do with the currency,also as they will no longer belong to the UNITED KINGDOM i assume they will pay for any services in ENGLAND they use namely the NHS the same as other countries outside the EU ( they will not be a member),will any SCOTISH person having a job in ENGLAND be classed as a foreign worker thus losing any rights to benefits etc,only asking as SALMOND seems to want his cake and some of ours.
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Maybe any Scots in England would need to choose if they keep a British passport or take a Scottish passport and as you say if they're taking non EU Scottish passports then they'd need to pay for services in England or maybe be deported! Trouble is most would qualify for dual citizenship through living and working/homeowning/renting in England but having Scottish heritage - grandparents etc. All sound a bit silly but something will have to give if there's a yes vote, lots to iron out - could be like Australia/New Zealand where you can opt to live in either pretty easily. Reciprocal thing would apply as there are hundreds of thousands of English people living/working in Scotland. When you decide you divide!
chris661
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Why do you use random capitalisation of words?
Think I saw a different debate to some on here, or maybe my glasses arent tinted.
Salmond clearly (or not as the case may be) avoided answering the questions yet again and deflected not only Darlings cross examination but that of the chair.
100,000 additional children in Poverty in Scotland, Salmond is the 1st Minister yet blames the UK govt for that.
He said foodbanks are escalating- why not use the millions you've spent on this ridiculous campaign the last 2 years to do something about it....thought not.
Overall cheap point scoring by Salmond especially on Darling saying he could use the pound- Darling also said he could use the Yen, dollar euro or whatever else he wanted..........but without a stable bank behind it it cannot work, ignored of course by a man who concentrated on walking around the podium (obviously told to do it by his marketeers) rather than concentrating on answering the most basic and important questions we all need to hear.
Salmond clearly (or not as the case may be) avoided answering the questions yet again and deflected not only Darlings cross examination but that of the chair.
100,000 additional children in Poverty in Scotland, Salmond is the 1st Minister yet blames the UK govt for that.
He said foodbanks are escalating- why not use the millions you've spent on this ridiculous campaign the last 2 years to do something about it....thought not.
Overall cheap point scoring by Salmond especially on Darling saying he could use the pound- Darling also said he could use the Yen, dollar euro or whatever else he wanted..........but without a stable bank behind it it cannot work, ignored of course by a man who concentrated on walking around the podium (obviously told to do it by his marketeers) rather than concentrating on answering the most basic and important questions we all need to hear.
One Planer
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Thanks for that :thup:
I thought it was just me.
Also loved Salmonds "The debt is yours" threat.
I also loved how Salmond tried to make a big thing of Darling admitting that Scotland could use the pound unilaterally, which is true, but Scottish banks would lose access to central bank funding, so goodbye RBS HQ (According to Sky). Strange how he left that out :smirk:
I'm still curious as to Salmonds plan B if his bluff is called in the event of a Yes vote.
I also agreed with a some of Darlings remarks about basing national incomes on such a volotile stock as oil, especially when the longevity of the stock is unknown.
Certainly interesting times ahead but I'm not convinced Salmond actually has a plan B if I'm honest.
Junior
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I agree with this, but i also thought Darling didnt shine either.
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