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Wales NZ 3rd/4th play off on Friday. What is the point? Does anyone care?

Yes. It would be great to see the recent No.1 ranked team in the world - who play in red - finish 4th.....,.😉🤭😂😂
 
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Wales NZ 3rd/4th play off on Friday. What is the point? Does anyone care?

Daft I agree, clearly someone is making money, fans should just boycott, empty stadium would get the message across that 3rd/4th means absolutely nothing to anyone.
 

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Disappointed for all my Welsh friends and definitely a chance there to have got to the final but ultimately SA the better kicking team and a great penalty under huge pressure to nail it. On that showing, if England bring the intensity of yesterday, neither side would live with them. I'm nervous how SA always seem to draw fouls and win penalties and so discipline will be key for England or they could be kicked out of the game
 

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Disappointed for all my Welsh friends and definitely a chance there to have got to the final but ultimately SA the better kicking team and a great penalty under huge pressure to nail it. On that showing, if England bring the intensity of yesterday, neither side would live with them. I'm nervous how SA always seem to draw fouls and win penalties and so discipline will be key for England or they could be kicked out of the game


how do you draw a foul in rugby?
 

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Lots of ways to be fair, particularly in forward play, scrums etc.

A bit like a centre forward in football drawing a foul from a clumsy CH.

can you explain in more detail, played rugby at a really good standard for several years before my knee went bust and never drew a foul or thought I had been drawn into one
 

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Didn't play, just observe. Commentators, pundits talk about it often. In rucks, mauls, scrums. You lead a player on, tease them to put a hand where they shouldn't, come in from an angle they shouldn't. It can be a gamble, what if the ref doesn't see it?, but surely you know what Homer is suggesting if you played the game?
 

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Didn't play, just observe. Commentators, pundits talk about it often. In rucks, mauls, scrums. You lead a player on, tease them to put a hand where they shouldn't, come in from an angle they shouldn't. It can be a gamble, what if the ref doesn't see it?, but surely you know what Homer is suggesting if you played the game?


Nope i genuinely dont, because that didnt happen and doesnt to my knowledge of the game having played and coached

In a scrum where each side totals somewhere in the region of 140 stone and the forces put through either side are immense would you want to "lead a player on" or "draw a foul" that could cause you serious injury? Scrummaging technique is a fine art but it isnt about trying to draw a foul, its about out manoevreing your opposite number through strength and technique

likewise in rucks and mauls, you protect the ball and your team mates the purpose isnt to draw a foul

maybe Homer can explain better?
 

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Faff de Klerk is a very good player. Talk about drawing fouls anyone remember Argentina not contesting the rucks against England might have been Against Italy thinking about it.
 
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Faff de Klerk is a very good player. Talk about drawing fouls anyone remember Argentina not contesting the rucks against England might have been Against Italy thinking about it.

Yes not contesting the breakdown was the tactic employed by the Italians against England. They weren't doing anything illegal though. I actually thought it was a brilliant tactic and it really threw England that day and, despite still winning, they didn't really figure out how to overcome that.
 

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Nope i genuinely dont, because that didnt happen and doesnt to my knowledge of the game having played and coached

In a scrum where each side totals somewhere in the region of 140 stone and the forces put through either side are immense would you want to "lead a player on" or "draw a foul" that could cause you serious injury? Scrummaging technique is a fine art but it isnt about trying to draw a foul, its about out manoevreing your opposite number through strength and technique

likewise in rucks and mauls, you protect the ball and your team mates the purpose isnt to draw a foul

maybe Homer can explain better?

Don't suppose you coached biting, gouging or delivering sharp blows to the opponents particulars... But they happen...

And, in the modern game, what is the point of the condescending pat to the head other than to draw a reaction (foul)?

And and, I don't know what Homer was alluding to either...
 
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And the score ..

That's a question! I don't think I've ever seen an All Blacks team lose 2 games on the spin, and can't see it happening against a Welsh side who picked up further injuries yesterday.

There's been no doubting the Welsh character and fighting qualities this world cup, but I just can't see them putting one over NZ.

Would love to see a try-fest and running from everywhere game seeing that there's nothing really at stake.

Let's go for a brilliant 42-35 to the ABs.......😉😀
 
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