Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
The RFU really dropped a clanger there. No way they should have sacked Jones this close to the RWC.
Mmmmm, I suspect you would have been very happy for Jones to stay in charge ?. This gives England a chance now.
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Not if you don’t get a new coach now. The team that plays in the competition will also be Jones team but with a new coach. They can’t have Borthwick until June apparently?
Yes, I hate the England rugby teams but I respect Eddie Jones as a coach. I listen to GBR pod every week and the players inside the set up think he’s brilliant and they trust his plan.
I think England are worse off in the RWC now.
Newtonuti
Active member
It's ok the players trusting his plan, but nobody else did. This years England performances have been way below par, WAY below par. Losing to Scotland, then being absolutely pummeled by Ireland in their own backyard, followed by a dismal autumn series which includes losing to Argentina, drawing with a New Zealand team who until 70 minutes in, were way on top then just seemed to switch off, and finally being ripped apart by the Boks.
Jones at one point had a superb gameplan, that blatantly worked as it saw us leave the All Blacks shell shocked at the world cup, however teams have found us out. Stop our power game and we have absolutely nothing. The team are unable to think for themselves and change the plan by themselves on the field if it isn't working.
His plan wasn't working though and he didn't seem able to change. A new coach can re-invigorate the side, inspire players who are looking flat.
fundy
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Bunkermagnet
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I dont think Jones was fully into it now. He seemed to change players and where they played too often, his love of Farrell wasn't good and overall the team seemed clueless all to often.
The change had to come, and I have loved Jones being there but it had to happen now.
The change had to come, and I have loved Jones being there but it had to happen now.
Newtonuti
Active member
Not only Farrell, but his obsession with using Billy Vunipola, when his game is entirely based on power and nothing else, is crazy. Not to mention his intent in play second rows at 6. One positive this year has been Steward, what a full back that bloke's developing into!
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I like the look of this. It will be interesting to see it in practice.
I like the look of this. It will be interesting to see it in practice.
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Speechless - hope they find who sent it and is banned for life
Speechless - hope they find who sent it and is banned for life
HeftyHacker
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Just seen this as well. What the hell goes through some peoples minds?! I hope they've played their last game and are exiled back to whatever rock they've crawled out from under.
ColchesterFC
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The fact that they've suspended someone suggests that they know who sent it. There must be more to the story than someone thinking it's funny or acceptable to give a black player a banana, some kind of back story to it.
HeftyHacker
Well-known member
Eddie Jones named as Australia coach.
How the hell was there not a non-compete in his contract when he was sacked from England?!
How the hell was there not a non-compete in his contract when he was sacked from England?!
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
Tbh, he can hardly poach players though can he
Newtonuti
Active member
Australia will win the world cup now. Jones has a knack of getting a team playing exceptionally the first year he's in charge, but then tapers off.
GB72
Money List Winner
The biggest issue for me will be how the RFU handled his severance pay. If they paid out his contract in full, he should be on garden leave or at least prevented from taking over another world cup team. If not, the payment should have been severely reduced. Sadly I suspect that he did, in fact, get the full payout wiith no restrictions.
To be fair, if he was sacked for poor performance, he was, then why be worried about where he goes to next? His trajectory for England has been downwards for a while, this was hardly a knee jerk decision.
GB72
Money List Winner
Totally agree on that, my concern if we have handed over a wad of cash to get rid of him with no reduction in that payment if he walks into another job, as he has. Just because we wanted him out, does not mean we cannot engotiate the payment.
Bunkermagnet
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My understanding is that Jones had other rugby interests going on, other than concentrating on England.
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