Relaxation of C19 restrictions

[sawtooth]

Has anybody seen any official information on what this means for golf from July 19th?

I assume it's fully back to normal using rakes, removing flags, etc.?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

https://www.englandgolf.org/downloa... Union Limited&dm_i=4ON0,13QO4,3BX4NO,51494,1

 

[DickInShorts]

No news in Scotland so far…….

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I played an open in Scotland today and used a rake?. They were put out and we were advised in advance that preferred lies were off, play it as it lies and use the rakes.

 

[jim8flog]

Has anybody seen any official information on what this means for golf from July 19th?

I assume it's fully back to normal using rakes, removing flags, etc.?

It will be up to your club to decide. Most of the advice has now become 'may' rather than 'must'.

 

[D-S]

All County officials have been advised by England Golf, in relation to golf/handicapping rules that as from 19th July:x

”Please be aware that within England – ‘All restrictions on touch points are removed. All adjustments to the Rules of Golf to cover the COVID pandemic are rescinded.’
Seems pretty clear.

 

[IanM]

All gone in Wales from Saturday!

 

[jim8flog]

All County officials have been advised by England Golf, in relation to golf/handicapping rules that as from 19th July:x

”Please be aware that within England – ‘All restrictions on touch points are removed. All adjustments to the Rules of Golf to cover the COVID pandemic are rescinded.’
Seems pretty clear.

Interesting as the Play Safe Guideline says

5. Competitions and Rules of Golf Competitions and Scoring •

Competition and scoring for handicap functions, including the registration process, handling and submitting of scorecards, and administration may revert to pre-pandemic operations.

Rules of Golf and Handicap Provisions • Coronavirus-related changes to the rules of golf and all handicapping provisions that enabled the game to be played competitively during the period in which restrictions have been set are to be removed.


Note the 'may' in para 1. This, to me, means we could still be marking our own cards if the club decides this is the way to go.

We have a seniors comp on Monday - I wonder how may will see the email which will probably come out tomorrow. Our bunkers are in a relatively poor state for normal play and will get worse over the weekend and a shortage of green staff I cannot see them being totally ready for normal play by Monday.

 

[Deleted member 15717]

Interesting as the Play Safe Guideline says

5. Competitions and Rules of Golf Competitions and Scoring •

Competition and scoring for handicap functions, including the registration process, handling and submitting of scorecards, and administration may revert to pre-pandemic operations.

Rules of Golf and Handicap Provisions • Coronavirus-related changes to the rules of golf and all handicapping provisions that enabled the game to be played competitively during the period in which restrictions have been set are to be removed.


Note the 'may' in para 1. This, to me, means we could still be marking our own cards if the club decides this is the way to go.

We have a seniors comp on Monday - I wonder how may will see the email which will probably come out tomorrow. Our bunkers are in a relatively poor state for normal play and will get worse over the weekend and a shortage of green staff I cannot see them being totally ready for normal play by Monday.

bunkers are hazards - they aren’t supposed to be perfectly prepared surfaces ?

 

[jim8flog]

bunkers are hazards - they aren’t supposed to be perfectly prepared surfaces ?

Yes but it does show the difference between those sitting in an office dishing out the rules to those actually playing the game.

How do they expect us to go one day with players on the course up to 9 o'clock at night with no rakes in bunkers to playing the next morning at 7.30 with bunkers in the same condition. There is only so much green staff can do between the 5.30 start of the working day and the time the first players go out and cutting the greens has always been the priority for early morning work.

Maybe they think we have fairies who can sprinkle a lit bit of their dust over the course during the night.

 

[3offTheTee]

All County officials have been advised by England Golf, in relation to golf/handicapping rules that as from 19th July:x

”Please be aware that within England – ‘All restrictions on touch points are removed. All adjustments to the Rules of Golf to cover the COVID pandemic are rescinded.’
Seems pretty clear.

Sorry to ask but what is a touch point pleas?

 

[Deleted member 15717]

Yes but it does show the difference between those sitting in an office dishing out the rules to those actually playing the game.

How do they expect us to go one day with players on the course up to 9 o'clock at night with no rakes in bunkers to playing the next morning at 7.30 with bunkers in the same condition. There is only so much green staff can do between the 5.30 start of the working day and the time the first players go out and cutting the greens has always been the priority for early morning work.

Maybe they think we have fairies who can sprinkle a lit bit of their dust over the course during the night.

our 4/5 green staff manage to rake our bunkers every day. Guess every course is different though

 

[SammmeBee]

All County officials have been advised by England Golf, in relation to golf/handicapping rules that as from 19th July:x

”Please be aware that within England – ‘All restrictions on touch points are removed. All adjustments to the Rules of Golf to cover the COVID pandemic are rescinded.’
Seems pretty clear.

Do EG have any authority on the RoG?

 

[rulie]

Yes but it does show the difference between those sitting in an office dishing out the rules to those actually playing the game.

How do they expect us to go one day with players on the course up to 9 o'clock at night with no rakes in bunkers to playing the next morning at 7.30 with bunkers in the same condition. There is only so much green staff can do between the 5.30 start of the working day and the time the first players go out and cutting the greens has always been the priority for early morning work.

Maybe they think we have fairies who can sprinkle a lit bit of their dust over the course during the night.

That certainly sounds like a club issue, not an England Golf issue.

 

[D-S]

That certainly sounds like a club issue, not an England Golf issue.

The Club always could decide not to hold a competition until they got their bunkers in order.

 

[D-S]

Sorry to ask but what is a touch point pleas?

I assume it is referring to rakes, flags, ball washers etc. that are touched by many.

 

[rulefan]

I assume it is referring to rakes, flags, ball washers etc. that are touched by many.

And distance marker posts in sockets that are normally movable obstructions bu as at today are deemed immovable.

 

[rulefan]

Yes but it does show the difference between those sitting in an office dishing out the rules to those actually playing the game.

How do they expect us to go one day with players on the course up to 9 o'clock at night with no rakes in bunkers to playing the next morning at 7.30 with bunkers in the same condition. There is only so much green staff can do between the 5.30 start of the working day and the time the first players go out and cutting the greens has always been the priority for early morning work.

Maybe they think we have fairies who can sprinkle a lit bit of their dust over the course during the night.

Our greenstaff have been maintaining bunkers to normal standards every day. There is always a perfect preferred lie.

 

[rulefan]

Do EG have any authority on the RoG?

No but the dispensations were approved/authorised by the R&A.

 

[SammmeBee]

No but the dispensations were approved/authorised by the R&A.

So should they (the R&A) not be the one’s rescinding….?