Random Irritations

Fiddly diddly allen head bolts used in the most awkward of places where you can't possibly get a full turn of the allen key. Then one of said bolts falling into the middle of the machine (Peloton) and then, when attempting to retrieve, falling completely out of reach. Had to take the whole side panel off to get the flipping thing out and then still had to somehow stop from throwing a hissy fit and try to re-screw it in place. I did scream very loudly in frustration at one point - luckily the neighbours both out at work.

Simple jobs never ever ever ever ever ever ever are as simple as they seem!
 
Would appear that the incompetence and insufficient investment of the privatised train companies result in more cancellations and disruption over a period than the ‘militant‘ rail unions, but you won’t hear it reported in that way by the usual suspects when ASLEF and RMT vote to strike…when the reporting and debate might have you thinking the rail service across the UK is a model of efficiency and reliability were it not for union disruption and intransigence. Well you might think that, even when the companies themselves admit their own failings and shortcomings.

That said my £20 advance purchase ticket from Chesterfield to Farnham inc. the underground was cracking good value…even given I forgot to use my railcard that would have seen it cost about £14. Now that is VfM.?
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Would appear that the incompetence and insufficient investment of the privatised train companies result in more cancellations and disruption over a period than the ‘militant‘ rail unions, but you won’t hear it reported in that way by the usual suspects when ASLEF and RMT vote to strike…when the reporting and debate might have you thinking the rail service across the UK is a model of efficiency and reliability were it not for union disruption and intransigence. Well you might think that, even when the companies themselves admit their own failings and shortcomings.

That said my £20 advance purchase ticket from Chesterfield to Farnham inc. the underground was cracking good value…even given I forgot to use my railcard that would have seen it cost about £14. Now that is VfM.?
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2 very different points so disagree trying to link them. The militant unions cause chaos, disruption and misery for millions.

Any incompetence, and there is likely lots, of the rail companies is another issue - and a lot of the rail network is now back in public hands.

By the way, i think the UK has had a very significant investment in rail over last 20 years compared to many European countries - the once proud German network is a shadow of its former self - and go to Paris and have a look at their stations compared to the lovely ones in London
 
PNWokingham said:
2 very different points so disagree trying to link them. The militant unions cause chaos, disruption and misery for millions.

Any incompetence, and there is likely lots, of the rail companies is another issue - and a lot of the rail network is now back in public hands.

By the way, i think the UK has had a very significant investment in rail over last 20 years compared to many European countries - the once proud German network is a shadow of its former self - and go to Paris and have a look at their stations compared to the lovely ones in London
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Bit of simple research into the issue would prove otherwise

Feel free to research

Might even learn something ?

Few years old but still spot on
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Would appear that the incompetence and insufficient investment of the privatised train companies result in more cancellations and disruption over a period than the ‘militant‘ rail unions, but you won’t hear it reported in that way by the usual suspects when ASLEF and RMT vote to strike…when the reporting and debate might have you thinking the rail service across the UK is a model of efficiency and reliability were it not for union disruption and intransigence. Well you might think that, even when the companies themselves admit their own failings and shortcomings.

That said my £20 advance purchase ticket from Chesterfield to Farnham inc. the underground was cracking good value…even given I forgot to use my railcard that would have seen it cost about £14. Now that is VfM.?
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This is an important distinction IMO. I don't disagree that (and I can only speak about) Scotrail have substantial failings (either as a private concern under First/Albelio or a public concern under governmental purview) but what those failings rarely result in is wholesale impact to the public. As a commuter (or former commuter) A train being cancelled has a minor impact in that I can get the next or alternative service (for example the 1712 from Queen Street to Dunblane was regularly cancelled, but I could get the 1710 Carnoustie instead and still get to Lerbert). But a strike in my area means ALL services are cancelled. So yes, over a period of time the failings most certainly do add up to more cancelled or late services but I don't think we can equate the impact that this has on the general public (and commuters) at any given time.

They are both issues, but to compare them is a bit disingenuous IMO.
 
pauljames87 said:
Bit of simple research into the issue would prove otherwise

Feel free to research

Might even learn something ?

Few years old but still spot on
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Thanks for the heads up. Maybe i will. Who knows i may even cone to respect the striking workers who regulary inconvenience me and many colleagues and friends. Maybe the christmas drinks i was going to on 13th that will unlikey happen will be able to save the jobs of the workers who will not get the thousands of revenue they would have had if it went ahead as planned. But that is ok as long as you rail guys get the pay rises you deserve and preserve the gold plated benefits packages. Rock on
 
PNWokingham said:
Thanks for the heads up. Maybe i will. Who knows i may even cone to respect the striking workers who regulary inconvenience me and many colleagues and friends. Maybe the christmas drinks i was going to on 13th that will unlikey happen will be able to save the jobs of the workers who will not get the thousands of revenue they would have had if it went ahead as planned. But that is ok as long as you rail guys get the pay rises you deserve and preserve the gold plated benefits packages. Rock on
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Mate you are so entitled it is unreal

Actually look into the facts before you run your mouth because you sound like a complete idiot

I'm sure the nurses, postie's, firefighters, ambulance drivers also standing for their rights are scum of the earth

Lay your blame somewhere else

Considering they cancelled the last strike as talks were promises and then the gov pulled the deal at the last min .. look at the top before you look down on everyone you step on
 
pauljames87 said:
Mate you are so entitled it is unreal

Actually look into the facts before you run your mouth because you sound like a complete idiot

I'm sure the nurses, postie's, firefighters, ambulance drivers also standing for their rights are scum of the earth

Lay your blame somewhere else

Considering they cancelled the last strike as talks were promises and then the gov pulled the deal at the last min .. look at the top before you look down on everyone you step on
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Come on PJ87, PNWs convenience and Xmas drinks > fair pay deals for rail workers.
 
HeftyHacker said:
Come on PJ87, PNWs convenience and Xmas drinks > fair pay deals for rail workers.
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Of course of course .. and when he gets too drunk bumps his head then the LAS don't attend because their out will be entirely selfish of them aswell

Beggers belief

If it was something actually important like a medical appointment of a funeral , but a drink up

Just worlds smallest violin for the entitled.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1597613224047919107

One my fav videos to sum up the attuides this country is up against. People wonder why relations are poor . Hint it's not Mick
 
PNWokingham said:
The militant unions cause chaos, disruption and misery for millions.
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I believe you are 35 to 40 years behind the times in so describing current union action.
Strikes raise public awareness and do cause some disruption - that is the whole point of them, is it not?
"Chaos" and "misery" is an exaggeration, but that could be applied to what the experience of many workers has been over the last 10 years.
 
Trying to clear condensation off a windscreen quickly.

None of the old wives tails or sponge wipe things work... Its all tosh.
 
Voyager EMH said:
I believe you are 35 to 40 years behind the times in so describing current union action.
Strikes raise public awareness and do cause some disruption - that is the whole point of them, is it not?
"Chaos" and "misery" is an exaggeration, but that could be applied to what the experience of many workers has been over the last 10 years.
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That's the thing workers are just expected to except being shafted.. oh just get another job if your not happy. What happens when they shaft you? And the next..the idea is that people get what's best for everyone

To think without these terrible people we wouldn't have

Weekends
Sickpay
Mat pay
Pat pay
Pat leave
Mat leave
Paid holiday

To name but a few

But hey nobody benefits from them
 
Voyager EMH said:
I believe you are 35 to 40 years behind the times in so describing current union action.
Strikes raise public awareness and do cause some disruption - that is the whole point of them, is it not?
"Chaos" and "misery" is an exaggeration, but that could be applied to what the experience of many workers has been over the last 10 years.
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More like 40 to 45 years. They wrecked our economy and bankrupted our nation in the 70s. We went cap in hand to the IMF, lost our car industy and a lot else. But hey, bothers stuck together for the common good
 
PNWokingham said:
More like 40 to 45 years. They wrecked our economy and bankrupted our nation in the 70s. We went cap in hand to the IMF, lost our car industy and a lot else. But hey, bothers stuck together for the common good
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Nice warping of history there
 
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