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In your theory the NHS would loss 60% of its work force overnight
Also we would run out of fighters
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In your theory the NHS would loss 60% of its work force overnight
Also we would run out of fighters
They would only quit, I'd imagine if they were going into a better job with more money.
Everyone wants more money, bottom line, striking isn't the answer in my opinion.
If you're not happy with your conditions, find somewhere that does or study something that will give you a bigger income.
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Most of them do the job because they care, and should be rewarded fairly , rather than payrises for MPs but pay freezes for NHS staff or real term cuts
Seeing it in schools. Teaching assistants leaving to work at Tesco because they pay better .
Don't get me wrong, I don't believe MP's should be getting pay rises!!
I honestly don't know if a teaching assistant, a nurse, a firefighter are fairly paid, I've never done these jobs to judge them for myself, they will always say they want more money, wouldn't we all!!
If they talk with their feet things will have to change, I've seen it offshore before when we lost a heap of Subsea Engineers, next thing all Subsea Engineers are getting 20k extra a year (No joke).
But that also helped us as we all got pay rises to keep the gap equal depending on seniority.
Voyager EMH
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If a significant number of people did this, it would lead to an increased number of people suffering a decline in living standards. Those who remain and most of those who leave.
You need to be able to have secured another job before leaving. Makes little sense to do so, if it is more poorly paid.
Unions are there to try to ensure that workers are not underpaid or exploited.
Many companies are happy to see resignations as it gives them the opportunity to employ replacements at a lower wage.
Rarely does it happen that they increase wages after several resignations.
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Back to your point about striking isn't the option the point is it shouldn't be the option, majority of time it isn't the option, it's the last resort .
The nurses have had years of pay freezes and real term pay cuts
Link their pay rises with inflation every year so they keep up with the cost of living
Teaching assistants in outer london start on 19k . They get 3 types of person doing it
Those who want to get into teaching
Those who live local and do around childcare
Those who have high earning partners so they can live off that wage
Why would you leave for less money?
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Better terms, money isn't everything in the world , if you can better terms that can be key for some
My Mrs just left her job for less money, she's on the 19k I mentioned was on more inner London
But the travel goes from 1 hour train to 5 min walk
Smiffy
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Moaning bloody wives......
Voyager EMH
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In 2014, 80% of the around 2,000 criminal barristers voted to strike. Dispute was over changes to Legal Aid. Why did they not simply leave and get another job, I wonder?
Are they a militant union? Is criminal law a closed shop?
Have they wrecked the economy in some way?
Did they cause chaos and misery?
I wonder why so many criminal barristers see a need to be in a union.
Are they a militant union? Is criminal law a closed shop?
Have they wrecked the economy in some way?
Did they cause chaos and misery?
I wonder why so many criminal barristers see a need to be in a union.
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Problem I find is people work off soundbites. They only believe what they have read and don't look into the issues.
You would be surprised how many people are under the impression that when members to out on strike they are still paid
Moaning bloody wives......
what have you done wrong this time? or is it easier to say what you've done right?
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Looking at train drivers salaries I think I picked the wrong job.
PNWokingham
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and how did that strike affect the large proportion of the population. Could they get to work on the trains and roads, could the self employed continue to do their jobs, did the service economy continue to function, did many people actually notice the strike?? What has closed shop got to do with this? Anyone can get a law degree (in fact i have one) and apply for training and quialify - that is not the same for a tube driver despite the carrot of job that was dangled for a specific role - the tube is a closed shop for friends and families and a monopoloy on what they do, hence the inflated salaries for the roles available - and when they strike they wreck the livelihoods/ and/or cause mass inconvenience of the wider public
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Already proven the tube is not a closed shop yet you continue to run it as fact
Feel free to join as an apprentice or even as you have a degree a graduate....
Friends and family is not a thing at all.
Smiffy
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I feel exactly the same way when I see how much male porn stars earn....
?????
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Trust me, I don't earn that much but it's a fun job ?
Voyager EMH
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In which professions is it OK for workers to strike and in which professions is it not OK?
As you are qualified in law, perhaps you could explain how legislation could be enacted to provide this distinction.
I do not need the current situation of conditions of employment for armed forces etc explaining to me.
If some work is so very essential, should it not be well paid?
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Basically anyone can strike , so long as they do it on a Sunday between the hours of 00:00 to 03:00 Nd don't affect PW at all
Except if you work for a railway then you must always report to work regardless of situation and be grateful for it.
Think that's about the long and short of it
Voyager EMH
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You can earn a lot more if you are female, so I've been told.
I don't know whether or not there is a militant union making the case for gender equality in pay. Perhaps that would only ruin the industry and cause chaos and misery.
