Random Irritations

[Rooter]

I don’t think any of us want to kill anyone but the risks that are taken and caused really need to be reduced.
I was nearly front ended by a muppet trying to pass a cyclist on a blind bend, but you ask yourself what makes people make silly decisions??
In the end we don’t have space for cyclists and other vehicles… so do we all go to bicycles? Or do we restrict the access of the cars / vehicles or cyclists? For me I would say the latter .. but that’s because my golf clubs don’t fit on my bike.

Of course no one wants to kill anyone, but that's the bottom line, get distracted in the car and hit someone at 30/40mph, good chance they will die.

We as a society need to look at why the reliance on the car, you make a great point, your clubs don't fit on a bike.

1. Hire a locker and leave the clubs at the golf club
2. maybe carpool so its one less car on the journey
3. get a bike which has carrying capability, these are huge in Europe! Households have more than one bike, the cargo bike for shopping etc, city bike, MTB etc.

Just needs people to have a look from another angle,

restricting access to anyone is a bad idea, except cars. Force cars to motorways and dedicated trunk roads. Look at some cities in the uK now introducing low traffic neighbourhoods schemes...

 

[fundy]

I dunno, I saw a forumite on a bike with a golf club just last night ???

 

[GB72]

Of course no one wants to kill anyone, but that's the bottom line, get distracted in the car and hit someone at 30/40mph, good chance they will die.

We as a society need to look at why the reliance on the car, you make a great point, your clubs don't fit on a bike.

1. Hire a locker and leave the clubs at the golf club
2. maybe carpool so its one less car on the journey
3. get a bike which has carrying capability, these are huge in Europe! Households have more than one bike, the cargo bike for shopping etc, city bike, MTB etc.

Just needs people to have a look from another angle,

restricting access to anyone is a bad idea, except cars. Force cars to motorways and dedicated trunk roads. Look at some cities in the uK now introducing low traffic neighbourhoods schemes...

Just playing devils advocate but:

1. Waiting list for lockers
2. Nobody in my village goes to Melton where I work.
3. My village has 1 bus a day which would get me in to the bus station about when I need to be at work and I then need to take another hour plus bus journey to get to Melton

Recreational cyclists cause serious disruption on the country roads and those that do not know them (most of them) do not expect traffic so cycle in such a way that it is a danger.

 

[Rooter]

Just playing devils advocate but:

1. Waiting list for lockers
2. Nobody in my village goes to Melton where I work.
3. My village has 1 bus a day which would get me in to the bus station about when I need to be at work and I then need to take another hour plus bus journey to get to Melton

Recreational cyclists cause serious disruption on the country roads and those that do not know them (most of them) do not expect traffic so cycle in such a way that it is a danger.

Some good points Greg, my 2p

1. Pressure the club to build more
2. Fair enough, not every car journey is unavoidable. But how far is it? could you cycle? maybe an e-bike?
3. If councils, governments are pressed, surely investments have to be considered in better public transport systems.

I think while there will be some knobs on bikes, most ride that way because of previous experiences. being in the middle of the road is the safest place 99% of the time, in my experience if you ride toward the verge and give a car half a gap, they will take it. Whether its safe or not to overtake.

Group riding I think could be improved, but its almost chicken and egg,

A group side by side group of bikes is easier for a car to overtake though, for example

9 bikes

X X X
X X X
X X X

This can be overtaken like you would a car, overtake done in a matter of seconds.

9 Bikes in single file

X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
3 times as long to overtake and the risk that the car driver tries to squeeze an overtake where maybe they shouldn't.

 

[harpo_72]

I just think your limiting people by taking their cars away from them. Public transport is not something I wish to use and not do I wish to jump on a bike or horse to then play 18 holes of golf…
The good news though is traffic should be reduced due to people really not being required to be sat in offices…

 

[harpo_72]

Some good points Greg, my 2p

1. Pressure the club to build more
2. Fair enough, not every car journey is unavoidable. But how far is it? could you cycle? maybe an e-bike?
3. If councils, governments are pressed, surely investments have to be considered in better public transport systems.

I think while there will be some knobs on bikes, most ride that way because of previous experiences. being in the middle of the road is the safest place 99% of the time, in my experience if you ride toward the verge and give a car half a gap, they will take it. Whether its safe or not to overtake.

Group riding I think could be improved, but its almost chicken and egg,

A group side by side group of bikes is easier for a car to overtake though, for example

9 bikes

X X X
X X X
X X X

This can be overtaken like you would a car, overtake done in a matter of seconds.

9 Bikes in single file

X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
3 times as long to overtake and the risk that the car driver tries to squeeze an overtake where maybe they shouldn't.

No traffic though if you ride virtually ? no accidents either … just saying

 

[Rooter]

No traffic though if you ride virtually ? no accidents either … just saying

LOL, half of my weekly mileage is in my office!!

 

[Rooter]

I just think your limiting people by taking their cars away from them. Public transport is not something I wish to use and not do I wish to jump on a bike or horse to then play 18 holes of golf…
The good news though is traffic should be reduced due to people really not being required to be sat in offices…

Maybe we need a big change though??

 

[Orikoru]

Maybe we need a big change though??

No thanks, it took me this long to pass my test and get a car, I'm not getting rid of it now! Even though you made it sound so appealing

you ride in the gutter, pick up punctures, get forced even more into the ditch.

 

[harpo_72]

LOL, half of my weekly mileage is in my office!!

Need to hook you up to power the grid then .. was going to do that to my little boy .. renewable energy

 

[clubchamp98]

Of course no one wants to kill anyone, but that's the bottom line, get distracted in the car and hit someone at 30/40mph, good chance they will die.

We as a society need to look at why the reliance on the car, you make a great point, your clubs don't fit on a bike.

1. Hire a locker and leave the clubs at the golf club
2. maybe carpool so its one less car on the journey
3. get a bike which has carrying capability, these are huge in Europe! Households have more than one bike, the cargo bike for shopping etc, city bike, MTB etc.

Just needs people to have a look from another angle,

restricting access to anyone is a bad idea, except cars. Force cars to motorways and dedicated trunk roads. Look at some cities in the uK now introducing low traffic neighbourhoods schemes...

We have been hearing the same arguments for years.
Cycling in this country is weather dependant.
Lots say in summer “ going to do this all the time” but first bit of bad weather and back in the car.
This is why politicians don’t take it to seriously as there isn’t enough pressure on them.
The roads are not designed for the traffic that’s on it, and you take your life in your hands if you ride on them.
With all modes of transport there are muppets using it. But lots are like Jekyll and Hyde as soon as they get behind the wheel of a car.

 

[bobmac]

Some say.....some people only buy electric cars so they can sneak up on cyclists.

 

[sunshine]

So, are you saying that any previous 'empire builders'-Roman/Spanish/Saracens/French/Ottoman...+ many others-were all the picture of benevolence ( in a kindly,what can we do to help you maintain your traditions/culture sort of way )??
Nope,did'nt think so!!

This is possibly the most irrelevant post I've ever seen on this forum Nothing to do with Kellfire's post at all - I'm just scratching my head trying to understand your point?

 

[harpo_72]

Some say.....some people only buy electric cars so they can sneak up on cyclists.

Law is coming in to make electric cars audible … it’s going to be a world full of ding, dongs and electronic rubbish

 

[sunshine]

Will there even be England flags up or are they still racist?

Sadly, the "patriotic" England "fans" booing the Croatia anthem at Wembley were a reminder why many people still associate England flags with racism.

 

[harpo_72]

Maybe we need a big change though??

We do, the wealth can be shared, and we can have more “me” time…

 

[sunshine]

I can see the outcome now; given his deprived upbringing, lack of opportunities and the pressure of the current circumstances we'll probably end up giving him a few quid & apologising to him for the inconvenience in arresting him.

he'll probably get a free holiday to Spain without the need to quarantine

 

[sunshine]

Couples who seem to think the only reason to get married is to have a big party. Don't keep postponing or, according to some possibly cancelling (!!), just get married because you want to get married. If it's all about the day/reception then have a look at whether it's the right move for you!

Isn't the big party the whole point? Nobody needs to get married, unless you're trying a get a passport to remain in the country.

 

[bobmac]

Law is coming in to make electric cars audible … it’s going to be a world full of ding, dongs and electronic rubbish

Some EVs already have 2 horns. One loud harsh one to get people out of the way and a second more polite toot, excuse me, coming through.

 

[Beedee]

I wear hearing aids. That's not the irritation.

They're rechargeable. And I didn't click one of them into the charger properly last night. Now I've got an evening of everything sounding like I've got an earful of water in one side to look forward to.