Random Irritations

rudebhoy said:
How do they calculate the cost of the damage done? £485,000 seems like a mad figure, as was the £7 million for spraying red paint on a couple of planes.
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The paint was sprayed down the engines. This would have blocked the cooling holes in the turbine blades and caused other damage which would have required the engines to be removed from the aircraft and sent back for overhaul. Aerospace parts are not cheap due to the materials and technology so the figure of £7 million is fairly accurate.
 
rudebhoy said:
How do they calculate the cost of the damage done? £485,000 seems like a mad figure, as was the £7 million for spraying red paint on a couple of planes.
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I read somewhere (cannot remember where) that the loss of the tree has meant a significant downturn in visitor numbers meaning local businesses have suffered. It's been referred to as its value as a community asset.
 
SatchFan said:
I read somewhere (cannot remember where) that the loss of the tree has meant a significant downturn in visitor numbers meaning local businesses have suffered. It's been referred to as its value as a community asset.
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I'd be slightly surprised at that. Lots of people want to see what happened, go to where it was. The publicity would have increased numbers for a period anyway.

Saying that, they can't just make it up.
 
SatchFan said:
I read somewhere (cannot remember where) that the loss of the tree has meant a significant downturn in visitor numbers meaning local businesses have suffered. It's been referred to as its value as a community asset.
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Got to be honest. I'm a 54-year-old with pretty good general knowledge and I'd never heard of it until those idiots chopped it down.
 
SatchFan said:
I read somewhere (cannot remember where) that the loss of the tree has meant a significant downturn in visitor numbers meaning local businesses have suffered. It's been referred to as its value as a community asset.
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There are very little in the way of local businesses near that stretch of the wall, and the majority of visitors want to see the wall first and foremost. The tree was an added bonus but very few people are going to have a day out just to see the tree.

I don’t doubt it was iconic but it wasn’t a big visitor attraction.
 
rudebhoy said:
How do they calculate the cost of the damage done? £485,000 seems like a mad figure, as was the £7 million for spraying red paint on a couple of planes.
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There are various systems for assessing/calculating the net worth of a tree. Dont know the actual method used, but I'm assuming something like CAVAT (Capital Asset Value of Amenity Trees) was used. This takes a basic base value for the tree based on it size. Then this is modified depending on its location, accessibility, cultural value, historic value, condition, expected lifespan etc. This tree would have score very highly in all categories and so would have had a very high monetary value assigned to it.

(Another way of valuing it would be to work out how much would it cost to replace it - exactly like for like. Just think - how much would it cost to source, prepare, transport, plant and maintain a 60-70ft tree - in the middle of wild moorland?)
 
Neilds said:
The 2 guys who cut down the Sycamore Gap tree have been given sentences of 4 years and 3 months. However, the judge has said they will be released no later than 40% through their sentence which is about 2 years (couldn't be bothered to do the maths). Why didn't she just give them 2 years ? Is it a way the powers that be can say " we are tough on crime, we jailed them for over 4 years" when the truth is greatly different?
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It may have been a "photogenic" tree, but it was just a sycamore..the scourge of towns, cities and suburbia. What I want to know is what punishment is being carried out on those who cut down the oak tree in North London. That tree is of more importance and value.
 
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