Random Irritations

[clubchamp98]

Many people can't afford the luxury of a 'modern car'.

In the Op he was in a two day old car !
I’m sure a Porsche has Bluetooth.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

On Gregg - not sticking up for him in any way, shape or form, but Johnny Vaughan made a good point on the radio when I was driving home yesterday. Did anyone tell him he was being inappropriate at the time? It seems like these days you get the witch hunt and trial by media a long time after the fact, with people banding together. If he'd have just been told the first couple of times that he was inappropriate, maybe he would have packed it in sooner? Or maybe he was and he ignored them, I don't know. You just seem to get this massive pile-on to a different celeb every couple of months. Not so long ago it was Russell Brand, but that's all disappeared now it seems.

A lot of the issues I suspect were people and mainly female prob felt they couldn’t speak up at the time , it’s still a very male dominated arena and it must be very intimidating at the time

 

[cliveb]

I doubt he was actually making a phone call, he was probably just looking at something on the web, or checking out an email or sending a text. It is tempting when you are stationary, I have to put my phone where I can’t reach it!

My guess is that he was most likely checking Google maps to try and find out how long the holdup was going to be.

The irony is that if your phone is connected via Android auto or Apple car play, you're allowed to do so - even when on the move! But just think about touching the actual phone when stationary and you're public enemy number 1. There's a serious legal disconnect between how dangerous these two situations really are.

 

[Orikoru]

A lot of the issues I suspect were people and mainly female prob felt they couldn’t speak up at the time , it’s still a very male dominated arena and it must be very intimidating at the time

I totally get that, but there must have also been male witnesses everywhere, his bosses, producers, etc. If nobody told him it was wrong that and it's slightly understandable that he continued building up a list of indiscretions.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I totally get that, but there must have also been male witnesses everywhere, his bosses, producers, etc. If nobody told him it was wrong that and it's slightly understandable that he continued building up a list of indiscretions.

People didn’t think it was - it was all part of the male culture at the time , just look at the stuff that Keys and Gray were caught saying - Ita degrading , they grew up in an era where they thought it was all ok

 

[hambugerpete]

My guess is that he was most likely checking Google maps to try and find out how long the holdup was going to be.

The irony is that if your phone is connected via Android auto or Apple car play, you're allowed to do so - even when on the move! But just think about touching the actual phone when stationary and you're public enemy number 1. There's a serious legal disconnect between how dangerous these two situations really are.

It's not exactly a new law and beyond some specific exceptions everyone should know it's against the law and just not do it.

 

[bobmac]

There's a serious legal disconnect between how dangerous these two situations really are.

That's why I asked if there was a sliding scale....1st offence, 0 miles per hour...warning
2nd offence 0 miles per hour....£100 fine, 3 points
3rd offence 0 miles per hour £200 fine, 6 points
1st offence 10mph £100 fine 3 points
Etc
The aim of the law is to make the roads safer.
Punishing drivers for using their phones while not moving in a traffic jam does not achieve its aim IMHO

 

[SteveW86]

That's why I asked if there was a sliding scale....1st offence, 0 miles per hour...warning
2nd offence 0 miles per hour....£100 fine, 3 points
3rd offence 0 miles per hour £200 fine, 6 points
Etc
The aim of the law is to make the roads safer.
Punishing drivers for using their phones while not moving in a traffic jam does not achieve its aim IMHO

If it stops him using his phone whilst operating his vehicle isn’t that achieving the aim exactly?

 

[hambugerpete]

That's why I asked if there was a sliding scale....1st offence, 0 miles per hour...warning
2nd offence 0 miles per hour....£100 fine, 3 points
3rd offence 0 miles per hour £200 fine, 6 points
Etc
The aim of the law is to make the roads safer.
Punishing drivers for using their phones while not moving in a traffic jam does not achieve its aim IMHO

There is a sliding scale already. No need for some overly complex mph based version of don't use your phone while driving!

 

[Pin-seeker]

“snidey illegitimates”

Where’s your sense of humour?

 

[AmandaJR]

Gregg's reaction to the complaints was typical, it seems, of the man. If someone complained to his face he'd just laugh it off. After all, he's Gregg Wallace so he's entitled. Right? Such a superstar they should welcome his advances. I honestly think he would have carried on regardless. The man is a first class twonk.

His apology is a complete farce. What we saw before is the truth of the man.

 

[bobmac]

If it stops him using his phone whilst operating his vehicle isn’t that achieving the aim exactly?

Nice phrase

There is a sliding scale already. No need for some overly complex mph based version of don't use your phone while driving!

He wasn't driving or operating his vehicle, the vehicle was stopped in a traffic jam and was causing no danger or harm to anyone

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Nice phrase

He wasn't driving or operating his vehicle, the vehicle was stopped in a traffic jam and was causing no danger or harm to anyone

The car is in traffic with the engine on the he is operating his car

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The new Robbie Williams single Forbidden Road is a straight lift from the brilliant (and died so so young) Jim Croce’s I Got a Name. Maybe it’s a tribute…

 

[YandaB]

The car is in traffic with the engine on the he is operating his car

If I am in an EV, is the engine on?

 

[hambugerpete]

Nice phrase

He wasn't driving or operating his vehicle, the vehicle was stopped in a traffic jam and was causing no danger or harm to anyone

Of course he was driving, it's nonsense to suggest anything else.

 

[hambugerpete]

If I am in an EV, is the engine on?

Are you driving it ? Is it in a showroom or maybe a car park .?

 

[Beezerk]

On the guy on his mobile etc…Just making the observation that he may have been stationary whilst on the phone…but he was in a queue of cars, and his engine would have been running as he waited for the queue to move.

The engine on my car stops when I’m in traffic or at lights etc, I usually put my handbrake on if I know I’ll be stopped for more than say 10 seconds.
Does anyone have a link to what the new phone laws actually are? You’re not allowed to touch your phone at all while in the car? Only while the engine is running?

 

[Orikoru]

The new Robbie Williams single Forbidden Road is a straight lift from the brilliant (and died so so young) Jim Croce’s I Got a Name. Maybe it’s a tribute…

Have you heard the story of how he nicked Angels off an unknown Irish songwriter that he met and gave him barely any money for it?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

People didn’t think it was - it was all part of the male culture at the time , just look at the stuff that Keys and Gray were caught saying - Ita degrading , they grew up in an era where they thought it was all ok

…a lot of us did. I do recall wondering how some of my mates managed it and got away with it…cos I certainly had no idea and didn’t And often the things that we learn that work when we are younger, we carry into adulthood and (supposed) maturity.