Jacko_G
Blackballed
Wrong - I tell the truth, people don't like it.
Putting with pin in - sick of it!
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Wrong - I tell the truth, people don't like it.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
People don’t like the flag in but you seem to dismiss that.
Are they all crap putters ?
I am including nearly all the pros we see on TV.
Jacko_G
Blackballed
Again you are incorrect. I don't dismiss that someone "doesn't like" it. I dismiss that every missed putt was because of the flag.
I dislike a ball two feet below my feet lie but I don't start a post crying about it anytime I fail to execute the shot. I need to accept and execute the shot better.
Flag in golf is great golf compared to no golf.
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
I think all of you who whine about it are crap putters and whinging wallies.
It’s the same flag for everyone. You must have hit the putt too hard or too far off line. Simple.
howbow88
Hacker
The metal contraption I hit yesterday wasn't a pin 
Mandofred
Well-known member
I just don't get this.....that I remember Jacko_G has only stated that the flag is in according to the rules, deal with it. I think everybody understands that some people really hate the flag in. But until they change the rules.....just live with it like grownups. If I putt from 5 feet and it hits the flag/hole and bounces out....I hit it too hard. It is my fault. Now...you may have issues with Jacko_G.... but on this you are imagining things.
Mandofred
Well-known member
Yesterday I was net 73 in that wind......but if I hadn't left at least 4 putts short by 4 inches or less....would have been a good round. I think they should move the hole closer to my ball......
Mandofred
Well-known member
Yes, I wish everybody had thin flag sticks.....no complaint there.
People are complaining about the flag being in.....not just about that extra thingy....which I haven't had to use, but can certainly understand why people don't like them.
Flag sticks can be made with thinner bottoms for windy areas as well. I've seen flags online with real narrow bottoms...no idea what they cost. That I know of, the usual reason for flags bending over too far is that with the wind etc either the bottom of the flag or the hole in the cup (probably both) have worn and allow more wiggle room.
D
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Ball is usually in my pocket by the time I get to the green or I have gone home after a few holes so it does not affect me in the slightest
On a serious note, surely its like the dress code issue, if you don't like it get lobbying the committee to change it....
On a serious note, surely its like the dress code issue, if you don't like it get lobbying the committee to change it....
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Tractor, car or clubhouse???The metal contraption I hit yesterday wasn't a pin
howbow88
Hacker
If that thing I hit was made out of the same metal as a car, I highly doubt my putt would have bounced out
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Douglas Baders left leg?
Robster59
Tour Rookie
Our flags are narrower at the bottom so we really don't get that as an issue most of the time. I'd be lying if I said it didn't happen but it's not been a major issue to me. Certainly I had a few putts yesterday which hit the pin dear centre and dropped no problem. BUT, I can agree that it can play on your mind and in some instances it is was much mental as physical.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
I think his right leg was made from similar stuff.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yep, that's EXACTLY what ours are like. A big crude bit of metal on one side of the pin, top folded over to varying degrees so you can pull it out with your putter, but sometimes it just slides off and you have to try again. The metal sits at least half a cm off the actual flag, so you need to turn it around to the back of the pin before putting or there is a reasonable chance it keeps your ball out.I played yesterday at a nearby course. They have these ball retriever things in the pins, but it appears that they made them themselves... Very hard metal, and the actual shape of the contraption means it's very difficult to simply use your putter to lift it up. In 13 holes, my playing partner and I had two perfectly good putts at good speed hit this thing and bounce out
100%. The ball retrievers are an invention that seemed like a nice idea at the time, but in practical terms they are rubbish. They all thicken the pin by some degree - I've seen plenty of bounce outs that rattle between the thickened pin and the edge of the cup before staying out, absolutely no doubt they would have dropped if just hitting a regular pin in the cup. Nice idea but they're not right, and clubs should really be going back to the foam inserts. I wish ours would. We had them originally and they worked fine.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
I havnt got an issue with Jacko-G he has a very strong opinion on the flag in that’s fine.
It’s just he thinks anyone who disagrees needs to Practice more, Concentrate more, and is a crap putter.
Flag in is the norm for now I get it.
But it fundamentally changes the way I putt ( firm at the back of the hole).
I can’t do that at the moment.
But at least I am playing so that’s fine.
huds1475
Journeyman Pro
Imagine landing on this thread via a random Google search ??
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Appreciate that Murph, but he was standing to the right of the fairway looking down the hole. So only a ricochet would have hit his right leg mate.
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
my course updated away from the retrievers to the counter sunk tube. I really don’t see any difference in performance. My PPs were just rotating the cabling mechanism to a least offensive position.
All of this does affect the up hill through the break putt as you will get a bounce out, but there is a pace which is between the 2 and probably not bad practice to master.
All of this does affect the up hill through the break putt as you will get a bounce out, but there is a pace which is between the 2 and probably not bad practice to master.
now they have changed to a different ball lift at Nairn all the issues people had have gone. the new one is just a small metal clip over the flagstick to the base. no issues at all now. even with the very thick flagsticks we have
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