Lucifer MorningStar
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Who would have thought it’s not the clubs at faultLooks like the PXG clubs are working fine for Penge at the moment - eagles the first and currently -4 after 10.
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WorldHandicapSystem
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You are right, it’s not ok. The PGAT must do more to control the weather.
Depreston
Club Champion
Some of the drops these pros get dear me
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Is it really worth having a cut for half a dozen people?
wjemather
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You jest but they do control the schedule and consistently choose to visit many venues at times of year when weather delays are more likely or almost inevitable. Even when weather doesn't intervene, they don't finish rounds due to pushing the limits of available daylight by not starting early enough to accommodate the interminable slow play that they do nothing to prevent.
rulie
Head Pro
Having worked with the PGAT officials, they certainly do adjust starting times, particularly after the cut (weekends), and they do so to finish in the TV time allocated.
They are not a "bunch of dummies" as they are often portrayed.
Arthur Wedge
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Maybe give them your CV of running top level golf tour events so you can show them where they are going wrong
wjemather
Well-known member
Yes, they set tee times for TV but do nothing to ensure the players keep up with the pace of play required to finish before sunset. Sundays are usually ok due to earlier starts to allow for a potential playoff.
They may not be dummies, but they are impotent and/or incompetent in many things.
The Squirrel
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They’re scheduling in SoCal, Arizona and Florida for the early season winter events. What else can an AMERICAN tour reasonably do. Where do you think they should be scheduling? Minnesota and Maine?
wjemather
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I was talking generally, not specifically about events during the winter months - many of which won't be part of the shorter season the tour seems to be working towards.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Currently top of the pile with a seven underLooks like the PXG clubs are working fine for Penge at the moment - eagles the first and currently -4 after 10.
rulie
Head Pro
Swango1980
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Who'd have known a golf monthly forumer would actually reveal themselves as a person who could actually run the PGAT better than all the current, experienced, PGAT officials.
I really hope they are reading this thread, and implement these ideas. Think of how immense the PGAT could become.
I really hope they are reading this thread, and implement these ideas. Think of how immense the PGAT could become.
wjemather
Well-known member
I'm interested to know how you think they've successfully tackled slow play on tour given the number of times play gets suspended due to darkness despite there being no delays, including two weeks ago when even a smaller field couldn't get further than 16 holes on day one.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
They could quite easily do a shotgun start today with the number of players left in the comp....
The Squirrel
Well-known member
What scheduling changes would you make that would make weather delays much less likely?
Re: compressed season. You seem unaware of commmercial reality. The reality of US sports broadcasting if your key broadcast is on Sunday afternoons is that NFL dominates everything between Sept and Jan with Superbowl in Feb.
PGAT have arranged their season to dovetail this which is smart. It's absolutely not an accident that the first signature event is the week after the NFL season ends and the Tour Championship is the week before NFL restarts.
As a side bonus, it also works rather nicely for Europeans as it gives the DPWT (not going head-to-head with NFL) an autumn window to schedule major events.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
There was 11 hours of daylight on Thursday, and a 3 hour rain delay. That leaves 8 hours to get 72 golfers round a golf course, and the PGAT failed to do that.
The technology exists to be able to get a fairly accurate handle on the impact of the weather, so using the weather as an excuse in this case isn't acceptable.
The organisers failed to plan accordingly for their event, that's the bottom line.
The Squirrel
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It's common general knowledge that the Californian coast is famous for the unpredictability of its weather, the rapidity of changes, and the difficulty and unreliability of its forecasts. Even if you've never been there, have you really never picked up on this? It's mentioned all the time on various news events (e.g most memorably in last year's wild fires round this very golf course).
Why Some Storms Can Be So Hard To Forecast
A lot of it comes down to inadequate data, limits to computational power, and a chaotic atmosphere.
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wjemather
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FYI, the first signature event of the current season was scheduled to take place over NFL wild card weekend in January.
And January and February are known to be the wettest months of the year in California. Unsurprisingly, these tournaments are regularly disrupted and even cut short.
Fwiw, the bad weather on Thursday was forecast with high probability early in the week. Having a delay was entirely predictable.
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Mel Smooth
Hacker
It's common general knowledge that the Californian coast is famous for the unpredictability of its weather, the rapidity of changes, and the difficulty and unreliability of its forecasts. Even if you've never been there, have you really never picked up on this? It's mentioned all the time on various news events (e.g most memorably in last year's wild fires round this very golf course).
Why Some Storms Can Be So Hard To Forecast
A lot of it comes down to inadequate data, limits to computational power, and a chaotic atmosphere.
So why didn't they simply start earlier?
