Private Schools... is it what it is cracked to be & not just toff?

[Marshy77]

Private schooling does not provide better teaching, the only reason private schools can publish such good results is that they are selective. Either that or they massage the figures.

It totally disgusts me that people get a leg up in their careers solely because they are an old etonian etc.

Yes private schooling may not provide better teaching but it does provide more individual one on one time with the teacher which state schools cannot provide.

My kids go to private school as my wife is a teacher in one. Like people have said already the difference in sending them there and the difference in sending them to a state school plus the cost of child care when they were younger was on a par, made total sense to send them to private school.

I very much doubt my kids would be achieving the results they are if they went to state school and I think this is purely down to the size of classes and individual teacher time. I could be wrong but that's my own opinion on this.

 

[KenL]

It did happen at a grammer school in Kent last year.. all kicked off very badly

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...chool-unlawfully-excludes-pupils-failing-get/

See, it happens!

 

[Hacker Khan]

See, it happens!

Yes, off rolling as it is called does occasionally happen in grammar schools and other state schools, I was never suggesting it did not. I stated that private schools do not massage the figures and achieve good results by doing this.

 

[HowlingGale]

Yes, off rolling as it is called does occasionally happen in grammar schools and other state schools, I was never suggesting it did not. I stated that private schools do not massage the figures and achieve good results by doing this.

That's funny as the mate who sends his kids to private school told me if there was even a whiff of the kids not passing they were told they couldn't take a specific subject.

We all know it goes on.

A private education doesn't ensure academic brilliance. What it does provide is a calm learning environment with exceptional social development that you don't get at normal state schools with difficult pupils.

 

[Hacker Khan]

That's funny as the mate who sends his kids to private school told me if there was even a whiff of the kids not passing they were told they couldn't take a specific subject.

We all know it goes on.

A private education doesn't ensure academic brilliance. What it does provide is a calm learning environment with exceptional social development that you don't get at normal state schools with difficult pupils.

I imagine any school worth its salt will help pupils to chose what they study based on their skills and competences. Thus ensuring pupils are not studying subjects that will just cause them to get upset and frustrated. That is not massaging the figures, that is just being a good school.

 

[SocketRocket]

For the umpteenth time I have voted Labour once in my life. Just because I disagree with a fair amount of conservative policy does not mean I vote Labour. I do agree with some of Corbyn's policies and ideas, and whisper it, also the occasional Conservative ones as well. But I also disagree with some Labour policies, and Lib Dem ones. Justine Greening was a half decent education secretary, but she got shifted as she did not believe in grammar schools enough which the conservatives seem obsessed with. The politics of blindly agreeing with everything one party says and disagreeing with everything the other one says is just poisonous and is causing a huge amount of problems at the moment.

And even if I was a member of the Labour party, wanting the best for your children is not the exclusive to one political party and is certainly not something I'd expect anyone to prioritise their political leanings over. I am a chair of governors at a state school, so apart from those actually in schools, I imagine I have given more than most to the state education sector. For free. And if my daughter did not want to go to the private school or did not pass the entrance tests then she would have gone to the local comp.

Private schools are not the enemy of state sector schools, there is no money being diverted from state sector schools into private schools. In fact if you shut down every private school now there would be even more strain on the state school sector. And even though I do not use the system now I will happily pay my taxes to support the state education sector for the good of the country. And there is no political dogma that will potentially harm the state school sector around private schools, unlike grammar schools, but that's a different argument.

I assume you hold the same principles to people using Private Health Care.

 

[SocketRocket]

Warning! may contain some bad language.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...-to-working-class-private-school-201001222401

 

[stevek1969]

My eldest son went to private school was worth the 6 year sacrifice ,worked a tonne of hours gave up family holidays etc but worth every penny now a chartered accountant with a big 4 financial company having gone thru there program, youngest point blankly refused to go.

 

[KenL]

@Stevek

Your child was clearly able and would have had success at any school.

You spent ~£60k on school fees, think how many golf holidays you could have for that!

How's the younger one doing?

 

[KenL]

I imagine any school worth its salt will help pupils to chose what they study based on their skills and competences. Thus ensuring pupils are not studying subjects that will just cause them to get upset and frustrated. That is not massaging the figures, that is just being a good school.

Schools are usually not the problem.

Parents that can't accept that their children are not capable of passing the highest level of qualifications are!

 

[stevek1969]

@Stevek

Your child was clearly able and would have had success at any school.

You spent ~£60k on school fees, think how many golf holidays you could have for that!

How's the younger one doing?

@KenL

The program he was on was was only done thru private schools , i don't regret for a minute sending him there , the youngest has just finished first year at Dundee Uni doing Law .

 

[KenL]

@KenL

The program he was on was was only done thru private schools , i don't regret for a minute sending him there , the youngest has just finished first year at Dundee Uni doing Law .

That's great to hear. A council school did not disadvantage your younger child one bit.

 

[Mudball]

A friends daughter is very good in her at the prep school she is in. She was scouted by a Secondary private school as they are building a team and want to be national champs in 10 years.
Parents are thrilled. The school fees is 21k. But they do get a sports scholarship of.... 1K .. happy days ..

 

[sawtooth]

My son just finished at a state funded grammar school and is now off to UCL in September.

Private schools in the area achieve good results too but still not as good as the grammar. I assume it’s due to grammars being selective and therefore having a concentration of very bright kids. It’s annoying but parents that can afford to send their kids to the private schools in the area opt instead to send them to this particular grammar school due to its reputation. It’s a shame because it deprives kids from less well off backgrounds the opportunity.

Private schools are needed because there’s simply not enough grammar schools. You only have to look at the GCSE result tables to see that private schools and grammars do produce the results.

 

[stevek1969]

That's great to hear. A council school did not disadvantage your younger child one bit.

My oldest son was bullied in primary school so i wasn't sending him to the same school as them so private school it was, do i regret it not for one second , for a kid who has come thru what he has I'm glad i did it .

 

[KenL]

My oldest son was bullied in primary school so i wasn't sending him to the same school as them so private school it was, do i regret it not for one second , for a kid who has come thru what he has I'm glad i did it .

Funny that. My nephew was bullied at private school and had to be removed for his mental well being! He joined in s1 and left after 2 months.

 

[Mudball]

Funny that. My nephew was bullied at private school and had to be removed for his mental well being! He joined in s1 and left after 2 months.

Got friends who kid got bullied in a private school in Y1-2 so moved to another private school and now thriving
Equally at another we had a case of a Year 2 girl told the very mixed group of boys that she did not want to play with them as ‘she plays only with White boys!!’ .. you wonder where she get that view from. She soon left and joined a high achieving girls only private school..

 

[stevek1969]

Funny that. My nephew was bullied at private school and had to be removed for his mental well being! He joined in s1 and left after 2 months.

I don't see why I've to justify my decision to send my son to private school on here on any other place , but here goes ,my son has had 2 full plummenary heart valve replacements by the time he was 15 ,the local council schools couldn't give him his meds that he needed on a daily basis due to staff cuts ,the private school had the nurses available who could do that , he was a very quiet lad who excelled in maths did master classes at 9 years old at university on a saturday morning this led to the bullying as wasn't interested in sports etc , my other son is totally different so he went to the local high school .

I just don't see what the problem is with sending your kids to private schools , i worked my butt of to give him that chance and now we can see the benefits of it.

 

[Blue in Munich]

I don't see why I've to justify my decision to send my son to private school on here on any other place , but here goes ,my son has had 2 full plummenary heart valve replacements by the time he was 15 ,the local council schools couldn't give him his meds that he needed on a daily basis due to staff cuts ,the private school had the nurses available who could do that , he was a very quiet lad who excelled in maths did master classes at 9 years old at university on a saturday morning this led to the bullying as wasn't interested in sports etc , my other son is totally different so he went to the local high school .

I just don't see what the problem is with sending your kids to private schools , i worked my butt of to give him that chance and now we can see the benefits of it.

You don't have to justify it, and there isn't a problem; it's your money, you spend it as you see fit. :thup:

If others have a problem with it, it's precisely that; THEIR problem.

 

[SocketRocket]

The town I live in has some very expensive and exclusive private schools. It seems like most of the Children I see in their uniforms these days are Chinese.