Private Schools... is it what it is cracked to be & not just toff?

[Hacker Khan]

The premise of private education in my view is either to provide higher quality education for those who can afford it, or a status symbol for those who can afford it.

For both those reasons, I'm out.

It's not that my family couldn't afford to provide it for our kids if we really put our resources into it - we just don't want our children growing up within an elite system which excludes the many, even if that disadvantages them for joining certain 'circles' in the future.

Their talents, in my opinion, will always have the opportunity to shine.

In an ideal world then yet. But unfortunately, due to the myriad of demands being put on schools nowadays when it comes to raising attainment and progress for every class of pupil (SEND, pupil premium, low achievers, medium achievers, high achievers, boys, etc etc, the list goes on and one and on), coupled with a reduction in income for most state schools, that is not always the case.

And that to be honest is what I am paying for to send my child to a private school, not to get 9 A stars but the opportunity to do her best and raise her confidence under an education system that is tailored to how girls learn, socialise and succeed.

 

[Marshy77]

The premise of private education in my view is either to provide higher quality education for those who can afford it, or a status symbol for those who can afford it.

For both those reasons, I'm out.

It's not that my family couldn't afford to provide it for our kids if we really put our resources into it - we just don't want our children growing up within an elite system which excludes the many, even if that disadvantages them for joining certain 'circles' in the future.

Their talents, in my opinion, will always have the opportunity to shine.

Totally disagree. Like a few on here have said already we can't really afford it but go without certain things to send our kids but feel that it is worth it for the education, small class sizes and sporting opportunities they can do at school.

I don't know about this elite system you speak off. I know we definitely aren't part of that and the status symbol is definitely something that doesn't interest us or our kids families.

The decision was always down to a comparison to state for the breakfast/after school costs compared to school fee's which were very similar and the 3 points above. Nothing else.

 

[Hacker Khan]

An interesting post. I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that you had more of a Socialist outlook on these matters. Maybe you could explain how the Government should increase spending on the Public Sector? As they are sitting on a £1.7 Trillion deficit; increased spending would mean we live even further beyond our means, would you suggest increasing income tax/National Insurance by 50% or raise the upper levels to 90p in the pound or maybe even a massive increase in immigration as it is supposed to create huge increases in tax revenue.

Not dodging the question but I suspect my answer will be way off topic. Plus the mention of immigration is sailing dangerously close to invoking B word, Hoggie will then chime in and before we know it it's yet another thread about the same subject. So I won't spoil it.

No comment.

 

[SocketRocket]

... easier to put some additional tax pensioners because they had it easy ... JustSaying :ears:

Pensioners should be treated no different to anyone else. If they earn enough then they should pay the appropriate tax, they should also not receive state benefits unless they genuinely need them, just like everyone else.

 

[joshuametcalfe]

You understand that it is imperative to get informed and ask many questions when a child is interested in a particular program. If some middle-class couples are able to pay for these costs, even if they are tightening their belts, this is not the case for everyone! For this reason, among other things, there is a debate in the public square to decide what fees the public school can charge parents. Many people think with reason that all children should be able to choose subjects that match their interests, with no associated costs. do my homework On the private school side, many colleges provide financial assistance to families in need. Know that scholarships are awarded based on family income and not on academic achievement. If your child wants to attend a particular college, but you can not afford it, do not hesitate to submit your application.

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[Mudball]

You understand that it is imperative to get informed and ask many questions when a child is interested in a particular program. If some middle-class couples are able to pay for these costs, even if they are tightening their belts, this is not the case for everyone! For this reason, among other things, there is a debate in the public square to decide what fees the public school can charge parents. Many people think with reason that all children should be able to choose subjects that match their interests, with no associated costs. do my homework On the private school side, many colleges provide financial assistance to families in need. Know that scholarships are awarded based on family income and not on academic achievement. If your child wants to attend a particular college, but you can not afford it, do not hesitate to submit your application.

Agree.. recently visited a Top Secondary School in South London. Spoke to the Burser there. Their first advice is to put an application for bursery along with school admission. She mentioned that they undersstand that just because you live in a million $ house in London, does not mean you are a millionaire. Her view was - for the right kind of kid, they will find the money.

And finally, Acc 2 her, if you get a bursery at the school the other children wont know that you have a bursery. So wont disadvantage kids on the playground

 

[fundy]

Agree.. recently visited a Top Secondary School in South London. Spoke to the Burser there. Their first advice is to put an application for bursery along with school admission. She mentioned that they undersstand that just because you live in a million $ house in London, does not mean you are a millionaire. Her view was - for the right kind of kid, they will find the money.

And finally, Acc 2 her, if you get a bursery at the school the other children wont know that you have a bursery. So wont disadvantage kids on the playground

the poor souls living in a million pound house who cant afford to put their kids through private school looking for bursaries? seriously? WALOFS

 

[Mudball]

the poor souls living in a million pound house who cant afford to put their kids through private school looking for bursaries? seriously? WALOFS

Indeed, just because you are asset rich does not mean you have the cash flow to get thru school. Plenty of people i know have either inherited / moved back w parents / had their area gentrified and now find that they have assets to show (and dont want to sell and move out of the area)

 

[fundy]

Indeed, just because you are asset rich does not mean you have the cash flow to get thru school. Plenty of people i know have either inherited / moved back w parents / had their area gentrified and now find that they have assets to show (and dont want to sell and move out of the area)

then borrow against the assets, liquidate some assets or move and leave the bursaries for those who actually need them to have that sort of opportunity, cant believe the intention of these bursaries is for those who are a little cash poor at the time!

 

[rulefan]

Covid has demonstrated at least one advantage. Two of my grandchildren are at private school. The school has been able to afford to run, in effect, a full schooling syllabus during the pandemic whilst local state schools in the area have been shut down

 

[Hacker Khan]

Covid has demonstrated at least one advantage. Two of my grandchildren are at private school. The school has been able to afford to run, in effect, a full schooling syllabus during the pandemic whilst local state schools in the area have been shut down

I suspect the state schools were not shut down as that would have been against the law unless there were covid outbreaks in the school, but the educational offering would probably have been nowhere near what the private school offered.

 

[KenL]

I worked my socks off during lockdown providing notes, worksheets and feedback on work submitted by pupils. All my colleagues did likewise. Local authority high school.