Muirfield, women, the R&A and The Open

Stuart_C said:
Phil, I disagree. Golf will grow regardless of whether or not Muirfield has lady members.
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That might be true but the R&A can't have a charter that includes having the game open to all then have their premier event at a club that doesn't allow women to join

It would be hypocritical of them.
 
Just seen a bit about it on the news on TV. Showed a bunch of old gits in tweed breeches at the club who could barely make 20 yards off the tee. Wearing the correct regimental tie however. Typical of attitudes north of the border. Little lady stays at haeme.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
So are St Rules....a women only club.
If the St Andrews Links Trust decided to ban people over 6'2'' tall from playing on the Old Course at St Andrews the R&A would not be able to over rule them.
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I'm unsure what point you are making here eld yin. Muirfield hasn't banned anyone from playing there. All the R&A have said is no further open championships, the HCEG have probably said thanks
 
lex! said:
Just seen a bit about it on the news on TV. Showed a bunch of old gits in tweed breeches at the club who could barely make 20 yards off the tee. Wearing the correct regimental tie however. Typical of attitudes north of the border. Little lady stays at haeme.
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Seriously??
 
lex! said:
Just seen a bit about it on the news on TV. Showed a bunch of old gits in tweed breeches at the club who could barely make 20 yards off the tee. Wearing the correct regimental tie however. Typical of attitudes north of the border. Little lady stays at haeme.
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Shocking statement. What has being north of the border to do with it?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
That might be true but the R&A can't have a charter that includes having the game open to all then have their premier event at a club that doesn't allow women to join

It would be hypocritical of them.
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Club or course? There is a difference.

I'd bet St Andrews is littered with clubs affiliated to the links trust who don't allow women.
 
Val said:
Muirfield isn't full of old farts, im sure many are younger than most of this forum.l

I know one member personally who is not 40 yet
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HE must have got HIS name down (with 25 letters of support) when HE was about 5 years old!

Either that or his name is Rear-Admiral Chumley-Warner...😀
 
Val said:
I'd bet St Andrews is littered with clubs affiliated to the links trust who don't allow women.
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Yep, sort of. In my club's case women can be house members but not playing members. The ladies clubs have the same rights to course access so it's relatively fair overall.

Due to an odd clause it was only last year that it was true to say both genders has equal access due to the way the courses were created. The R&A is two entities now but in its original members club form they funded and built the New course and thereby have a right to claim every other tee time on the New if they choose. So until quite recently it was a male only privilege even though they didn't exercise it.
 
I have no problem with their decision, good on them I say don't let outsiders push you into something. Good for them not to be pushed into something by the PC brigade. I mean why would a private members course let outsiders tell them what to do, the Open has lost a great venue a bad decision by the R&A.......
 
Val said:
Unsure what you want me to say?

I know a member who works in the oil industry in Aberdeen who under 40
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Did he have parentage or some other help to get in? I hear (from a friend) that 25 letters of support is what is required.

I also hear that you cannot maintain a competitive hcp there?
 
Wondered when this would rear its head again :D

I think the R&A are damaging the open by withdrawing Muirfield from the rota. Biggest crime of all imo.

Not read all the thread but have we had the old, there's only more Female only clubs than make because they were forced into it by big hairy brutes not letting them play?
 
Just seems so out of sync with modern society it'd be great to hear the rational of the couple hundred that voted against change

I'm not buying that they used the vote as they don't want to stage The Open. If you didn't want to host it then withdraw, simple
 
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