Muirfield, women, the R&A and The Open

Very good descision from the R & A

Poor from Muirfield and it's a shame some are still stuck in the old ages

Not allowing female members is IMO very poor
 
A real spanner in the works here but how long before a transgender woman applies to play in a womens open? Has that been addressed yet? There are clear power differences between men and women so this causes real issues, not just in golf but all sports.

I guess if legally she is 'of the female gender' then she would be eligible
 
My thoughts as well but if the power differential shows through then it will distort matters. All organisations will have to look at this, if they have not already. Imagine if a male pro golfer, eg Ian Poulter for example, decided to change gender. He would win every tournament. It would be silly. Awkward one.
 
My thoughts as well but if the power differential shows through then it will distort matters. All organisations will have to look at this, if they have not already. Imagine if a male pro golfer, eg Ian Poulter for example, decided to change gender. He would win every tournament. It would be silly. Awkward one.

I should have thought if that happened the other ladies would have to up their games accordingly, however I assume ladies tournament golf courses are not of the same length as the male equivalent therefore maybe power/length is not quite so important.
 
A real spanner in the works here but how long before a transgender woman applies to play in a womens open? Has that been addressed yet? There are clear power differences between men and women so this causes real issues, not just in golf but all sports.

Not quite sure on what basis I think it, but I think that one is already sorted.

Muirfield. Wrong decision but their choice.

R&A. Right decision but wrong reason. Smacks of arse-covering, which is never the right reason.
 
I've just heard on the tranny that Nocola Sturgeon is extremely disappointed that Muirfield won't allow women members to join their club ... That's coming from someone that really couldn't give a hoot but she must be seen and heard to be making some noise.

3 cheers to the geezers at Muirfield :one:
 
I've just heard on the tranny that Nocola Sturgeon is extremely disappointed that Muirfield won't allow women members to join their club ... That's coming from someone that really couldn't give a hoot but she must be seen and heard to be making some noise.

3 cheers to the geezers at Muirfield :one:

I just scan read that and thought you were dropping a bombshell, oh well. :lol:
 
A real shame that any golf course is male only. My club is enriched by the women golfers who are members.

For me, a course that has a male section (club) and a female section is totally different to one where women are not welcome at all.

There are course that operate this way (e.g. Royal Troon) where men and women can play the courses(s). Is this the case at any female only clubs?

I am pleased that the R&A has made this decision, although personally disappointed as I was a Marshall in 2013 and it was a very memorable week.

Hopefully Muifield (or the "honourable" company - how pompous is that name?) will see sense and allow a woman's section in the very near future.

Hopefully Turnberry will also be removed from the list of Open venues due to their owner being a complete ****!
 
Lots of views here but the word for a long while was it was never going to happen. So no shock around this area. The OPEN, big loss to East Lothian every few years...but they don't care. The R & A they have a cheek, they've only just let women in themselves and now they're laying it down.
 
Lots of views here but the word for a long while was it was never going to happen. So no shock around this area. The OPEN, big loss to East Lothian every few years...but they don't care. The R & A they have a cheek, they've only just let women in themselves and now they're laying it down.

The R&A are not a course owning club.
 
The golf course at Formby Ladies is not women only (as opposed to the golf club, which is). They explicitly welcome men to play the course on their website. I don't know how many actually do, though.

As for the women only golf clubs: I guess they were formed mostly out of necessity at times when their already existent male counterparts would not allow the ladies to play. So now stating that purely male golf clubs are alright, because they are also purely female ones around is slightly hypocritical. Also, I don't think that any of those women only clubs hosts a LPGA major (correct me if I am wrong)

That said, since there are differences in the male and female game, it might be very pleasant for a woman to play a course that was actually designed with female players in mind. (I really want to play Formby Ladies, actually, just to compare if it feels any different to a predominantly "male" golf course)
 
So because Muirfield won't change their rules to suit the R&A, they're refusing to hold the open at arguably the best open course?

Pathetic decision.
 
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