Membership cost increase

[KenL]

Sorry my mistake.
But if you don’t have a home club are you balloted out?

I don't know for all clubs. Might be that they let people through if they have spaces???

 

[fundy]

In that case I don’t see the point
If your not a member of a club and can’t get in an open why do you need a handicap.

That doesnt appear to have been the plan when the iGolfer handicaps were launched but its quite clear that a large portion of clubs and members are adamant that non members will sandbag a handicap whereas all club members handicaps are accurate and no one would ever dream of sandbagging

So basically its pointless and not worth the paper its written on because it was a deterrent to being a club member so clubs closed ranks and made it useless

As recommended the cheapest membership which gives you a handicap still a far better option (and of course theyre reviewing your handicap far more than the central scheme are arent they lol)


PS If you earn 30K you most likely cost your company far more than 35k

 

[clubchamp98]

That doesnt appear to have been the plan when the iGolfer handicaps were launched but its quite clear that a large portion of clubs and members are adamant that non members will sandbag a handicap whereas all club members handicaps are accurate and no one would ever dream of sandbagging

So basically its pointless and not worth the paper its written on because it was a deterrent to being a club member so clubs closed ranks and made it useless

As recommended the cheapest membership which gives you a handicap still a far better option (and of course theyre reviewing your handicap far more than the central scheme are arent they lol)


PS If you earn 30K you most likely cost your company far more than 35k

Yes but my boss said I was worth every Penny.

 

[sunshine]

It said staff costs not pay rise.
Costs include any costs incurred by the employer
So 7% pay rise could be 10% cost to employer.
No expert myself but that’s how my boss always explained it to me.
If I was on 30k it cost 35k to employ me.

ok, you're on 30k and it costs 40k to employ you. Staff costs go up 10% to 44k. This can be divided into:
1. Your salary goes up 10% from 30k to 33k.
2. The NI and pension contributions paid by your employer goes up 10% from 10k to 11k.

 

[MACM85]

Just had an email from the club saying our membership is increasing by 13% across all membership options. Club is in Surrey

 

[Teebs]

13% is pretty high, is membership full / would you expect to lose any members at that rate increase?

 

[MACM85]

13% is pretty high, is membership full / would you expect to lose any members at that rate increase?

I am on an intermediate category so I will still be paying under £800 for the year. I will stay with that. In regards to the full membership that is where you may see a few leave. However the membership have generally been there donkey years.

 

[Deleted member 30522]

I don't know for all clubs. Might be that they let people through if they have spaces???

In the north east most clubs are not accepting entries from Scottish Golf "members".

 

[clubchamp98]

ok, you're on 30k and it costs 40k to employ you. Staff costs go up 10% to 44k. This can be divided into:
1. Your salary goes up 10% from 30k to 33k.
2. The NI and pension contributions paid by your employer goes up 10% from 10k to 11k.

Maybe I am not explaining it well pay rise has nothing to do with it.
Op said staff costs.
So it’s 10% minus what it costs the business.
What’s left is what is avaliable for a rise.

 

[patricks148]

In the north east most clubs are not accepting entries from Scottish Golf "members".

I think I'm going to ask our membership sec if we got any of these in the couple of opens we have, don't think it will be any but playing with him Friday .

 

[Jacko_G]

I don't know for all clubs. Might be that they let people through if they have spaces???

The reason for it is "greed" or a flick of two fingers at SG. If you look at a lot of Opens in the small print now they have a clause for nomad golfers which states the entry is the fee plus a full green fee.

 

[sunshine]

Maybe I am not explaining it well pay rise has nothing to do with it.
Op said staff costs.
So it’s 10% minus what it costs the business.
What’s left is what is avaliable for a rise.

The employer's costs like NI and pension contributions are a % of the salary. So if the salary goes up 10%, the NI also goes up 10%, so the overall cost of employing someone is still a 10% uplift.
Staff costs will not rise if you don't give the staff a pay rise.

 

[clubchamp98]

The employer's costs like NI and pension contributions are a % of the salary. So if the salary goes up 10%, the NI also goes up 10%, so the overall cost of employing someone is still a 10% uplift.
Staff costs will not rise if you don't give the staff a pay rise.

No they are not.
They are on top of what the salary is

 

[Deleted member 30522]

I think I'm going to ask or membership sec if we got any of these innthe couple of opens we have don't think it will be any but playingnwith him Friday .

I didn't play in it myself, but noticed the Newmacher 3-dayer was won by a SG "member". I'm afraid that just grinds my gears, big voucher for that

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Just had an email from the club saying our membership is increasing by 13% across all membership options. Club is in Surrey

Worrying…Surrey club member also…13% would see us break £2k. Guess we’d lose some members but we have a big waiting list and a good bunch of Academy memberships who are dead keen to join Full. We had some surplus last year so hopefully we can limit increase to well under 10%.

Question for those whose subs are increasing at the moment would be if they know how confident their clubs are in what their energy costs are going to be after April next year. I think (not 100% sure tbh) we know what the OFGEM cap on energy rates will be, but do we know what support or other cap the government will provide to business?

 

[sunshine]

No they are not.
They are on top of what the salary is

I'm so bad at explaining myself.

The additional costs like NI and pension contributions are calculated as a % of the salary. So if the salary paid to employees goes up 10%, the NI paid by the employer to the government also goes up 10%, so the overall cost of employing someone is still a 10% uplift.
Staff costs will not rise if you don't give the staff a pay rise.

 

[doublebogey7]

I'm so bad at explaining myself.

The additional costs like NI and pension contributions are calculated as a % of the salary. So if the salary paid to employees goes up 10%, the NI paid by the employer to the government also goes up 10%, so the overall cost of employing someone is still a 10% uplift.
Staff costs will not rise if you don't give the staff a pay rise.

While in principle you are correct in practice you are not. Employer's only start paying NI after the equivalent of the personal allowance. So if you earn say 20k, then NI contributions are a % of £7430. If you then were to get a 10% rise taking you to £22k the employer would be paying a % of £9,740 an increase of over 26% in employer NI contributions.

 

[Deleted member 30522]

Home clun 0% change for 2023
Still waiting on away club fees

 

[Ruggy]

While in principle you are correct in practice you are not. Employer's only start paying NI after the equivalent of the personal allowance. So if you earn say 20k, then NI contributions are a % of £7430. If you then were to get a 10% rise taking you to £22k the employer would be paying a % of £9,740 an increase of over 26% in employer NI contributions.

Plus if the employer contributes to a pension scheme this will also go up by the same % increase. Similar if staff are paid overtime.

 

[richbeech]

I've just moved clubs in the last few weeks, although I applied to my new club in May but had to go onto a waiting list etc. When I applied the fees were £1,810 which is about £600 more than I'm paying at my old club but it's well worth it, it's the best course in the area. As I'm then going through the application process (interview etc) I find out the new club has put the fees up by 10% which I was half expecting but it was still a bit of wounder. Fees are now more or less £2k but I still think it's just about worth it when I weigh up all of the benefits I get for being a member. Needless to say I've been a member there now for a few weeks and it's very nice. Totally different from my old club.