Madeleine McCann

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I can't see why the post is distasteful or would offend anyone, the exact same debate will be going on in workplaces, pubs and households all over the country with people having different opinions on it so for me there is no reason why this thread should be locked.
 
I can't see why the post is distasteful or would offend anyone, the exact same debate will be going on in workplaces, pubs and households all over the country with people having different opinions on it so for me there is no reason why this thread should be locked.

I'm inclined to agree. Sure some of the comments made me wince a bit but people feel strongly about an emotive case that has been in the headlines for 7 years. The couple have been very public in that time and therefore (varied) opinion on them has grown and also opinion on the events of the kidnapping...

Time will tell but I can't see why this thread should be locked due to differing opinions.
 
I've never said this before but I do hope this topic is locked very soon, I personally find it quite distasteful

Why? People are just giving different views on subject which was and is again high up thew news agenda. I find posts asking for threads to be locked more baffling than any of the other stuff thats been said
 
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Why? People are just giving different views on subject which was and is again high up thew news agenda. I find posts asking for threads to be locked more baffling than any of the other stuff thats been said

Everyone has a different level at which they find discussion distasteful. This is pretty well there for me but I understand it may be way short for some. I am not a mod and I'm sure they will step in when they feel its appropriate.
 
Everyone has a different level at which they find discussion distasteful. This is pretty well there for me but I understand it may be way short for some. I am not a mod and I'm sure they will step in when they feel its appropriate.

You don't like the thread yet you still keep coming back to read it/reply to it :confused:........ bad day? :p
 
As one of those who is extremely judgmental over the McCanns' actions and also someone who isn't entirely convinced of their innocence in the larger scheme of things let me just clarify a few things that are being taken way out of context by some.

1. I do NOT want something dark and horrible to have happened to Madeleine McCann just so I can say, "I told you so". That's a repugnant thing to suggest and those who have insinuated that about myself and others should think about what they're saying.

2. I don't claim to have any more knowledge than anyone else beyond gut feeling and by expressing those feelings it doesn't make me some sinister character who is looking for the worst in any situation. I would love to proved wrong and for Madeleine to turn up safe and sound tomorrow.

3. I just cannot buy into the fact that they feel guilty every day of their lives and this is some sort of "punishment enough" for their neglect. Many murderers regret their crime from the second they carried it out. Same with rapists, burglars and every crime under the sun. This doesn't change anything about the fact that a crime was committed and they should be punished. I feel very strongly that what the McCanns did that night went as far as criminal neglect and at the very least their remaining children should have been removed from their "care". They had already massively failed one child, no matter the scope of their involvement, and for their own sake the remaining children should have been taken into alternative care. The fact that the world's eyes were now firmly focused on the McCanns (thus probably meaning they wouldn't dare repeat their behaviour) is irrelevant.
 
As one of those who is extremely judgmental over the McCanns' actions and also someone who isn't entirely convinced of their innocence in the larger scheme of things let me just clarify a few things that are being taken way out of context by some.

1. I do NOT want something dark and horrible to have happened to Madeleine McCann just so I can say, "I told you so". That's a repugnant thing to suggest and those who have insinuated that about myself and others should think about what they're saying.

2. I don't claim to have any more knowledge than anyone else beyond gut feeling and by expressing those feelings it doesn't make me some sinister character who is looking for the worst in any situation. I would love to proved wrong and for Madeleine to turn up safe and sound tomorrow.

3. I just cannot buy into the fact that they feel guilty every day of their lives and this is some sort of "punishment enough" for their neglect. Many murderers regret their crime from the second they carried it out. Same with rapists, burglars and every crime under the sun. This doesn't change anything about the fact that a crime was committed and they should be punished. I feel very strongly that what the McCanns did that night went as far as criminal neglect and at the very least their remaining children should have been removed from their "care". They had already massively failed one child, no matter the scope of their involvement, and for their own sake the remaining children should have been taken into alternative care. The fact that the world's eyes were now firmly focused on the McCanns (thus probably meaning they wouldn't dare repeat their behaviour) is irrelevant.

I think that last paragraph is bordering on the slanderous, accusing the McCanns of criminal neglect, which they have never been charged with such an offence, and saying that they are incapable of looking after their other children. Your first paragraph also insinuates that you think they are implicated 'someone who isn't entirely convinced of their innocence'. That is dangerous territory. If you know something, tell the police. If you don't, keep your amateur sleuthing to yourself.
 
You don't like the thread yet you still keep coming back to read it/reply to it :confused:........ bad day? :p

Not a bad day James, no. A bad thread, yes. I said earlier that I don't think that not reading the thread is the answer. As Ethan says, there is potentially some pretty slanderous stuff being spouted.
 
I think that last paragraph is bordering on the slanderous, accusing the McCanns of criminal neglect, which they have never been charged with such an offence, and saying that they are incapable of looking after their other children. Your first paragraph also insinuates that you think they are implicated 'someone who isn't entirely convinced of their innocence'. That is dangerous territory. If you know something, tell the police. If you don't, keep your amateur sleuthing to yourself.

I've made no criminal allegations, I've said that my opinion is that something they are known to have done is more serious than they have been judged to have been by the relevant authorities. Despite the way you seem to want me to be doing something wrong, I'm not. I'm perfectly within my rights to say what I have here.

When you see any televised criminal case and the accused is found innocent you regularly see the victims or the victim's family state outright that the decision is wrong. Does anything happen to these people such as cases of slander taken against them?

No. For obvious reason. So stop trying to paint me as the bad guy here, which you're obviously trying to do for no other reason than I have a different opinion to you.

As for this dangerous territory you speak of, you're being ridiculous. Again I've made no allegation of anything and gone so far as to say anything I do think beyond that which is known is gut instinct.

Why do we live in such ridiculous times when people think any discussion of a serious nature is litigious?
 
Just so you aren't misunderstood, what do you mean by this?

It is obvious what I mean by this but I have explained that it is nothing more than a gut feeling and I would never accuse them of anything I didn't have evidence for, which is nothing.

At the same time I think any reinvestigation should look into their actions in the lead up to Madeleine going missing and the aftermath.
 
Note to self. Add threads on Madeline McCann to those about Scottish Independence, Scottish or English football, young people looking for jobs, Andy Murray and TaylorMade as ones not to bother reading on this Forum as it only brings out the worst in people.;)
 
Just watched the Crimewatch programme and have to say there is something that is still not quite right for me just a gut feeling nothing more, these burglary's that were taking place for example and these sightings of a man wandering around with a child in his arms at various times of the night, lots of very strange happenings. Think the only thing that can be said is that the Portugal police made a real mess of the investigation
 
Seeing that beautiful girl again tonight made me sad,i have a girl the same age.
After seeing the programme I cant really see any change.
Yes a possible sighting,yes a removal of the possibility that someone was carrying Madeline close
to her apartment.
But nothing concrete,an efit yes but only really for elimination.
Maybe im wrong,i hope so.
Im off to give my daughter a cuddle.
 
I could only watch so much, as I find what happen gut wrenching. Can not imagine what the parents have gone through, and as for the little girl I try not to think about it.
 
As one of those who is extremely judgmental over the McCanns' actions and also someone who isn't entirely convinced of their innocence in the larger scheme of things let me just clarify a few things that are being taken way out of context by some.

If they had something to hide do you really think they would have mounted the campaign they have? Do you really think they would have pushed and pushed for continued police involvement and investigations?

And if you do believe they have, watch out for the bogey man under the bed...

BOO!! It's behind you!!
 
I just think that no matter how secure the families thought the appartment complex, they still chose to leave their children alone and unattended albeit for half hourly checks.

That to me is just plain unforgiveable.
 
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