Madeleine McCann

[3offTheTee]

Let me say at the outset how sorry I feel for the parents' after all this time and nothing would please me more if she was found.

There is another programme on TV tomorrow and how they have managed to keep the search alive for so long is incredible.

However they were at fault initially and I would hate to guess the cost involved which will I fear achieve little.

 

[pokerjoke]

Its shocking how long this has gone on for.
However it does show that hope remains,probably due to the incompetence of the police initially.
I will watch and draw my conclsions,however I don't think we will learn much more,probably more
unanswered questions.

 

[DappaDonDave]

I don't understand the importance of this one particular child. I'm confident there are plenty of missing children who with 1/2 of the gusto put into the search for MM would be found within the UK.

The parents were at fault, I can't even contemplate leaving my son (4) on his own, anywhere, let alone in a foreign country in a hotel room! That does not mean it is ENTIRELY their fault, but their omission is as much to blame as the person/people who took her.

Unless this girl has some cure for cancer or an equation to turn water into an all nourishing compound which will stop world hunger I do not understand why public money (which it now is as the police are involved) is being spent on this "lost" cause.

 

[sev112]

Well, I for one, at least, am glad that some public money is still being spent on trying to locate a 10 (?) year ol girl whose current life I cannot even bring myself to think about. In my world, that is wha I would hope would be done .

Must admit I wouldn't equate fault equally on the parents as the abductor !?

 

[chrisd]

Well, I for one, at least, am glad that some public money is still being spent on trying to locate a 10 (?) year ol girl whose current life I cannot even bring myself to think about. In my world, that is wha I would hope would be done .

Must admit I wouldn't equate fault equally on the parents as the abductor !?

I agree Sev.

 

[Deleted member 17920]

Well, I for one, at least, am glad that some public money is still being spent on trying to locate a 10 (?) year ol girl whose current life I cannot even bring myself to think about. In my world, that is wha I would hope would be done .

Must admit I wouldn't equate fault equally on the parents as the abductor !?

Agree with your quote. What on earth were they thinking that night when they left the kids home alone!!!!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I'll watch it but fear this case will only ever have one sad and inevitable outcome. Personally if she isn't already dead I fear that any abductee may kill her if the net ever closes in. I pray I'm wrong but lets see if the programme can change my view to something more positive

 

[Pin-seeker]

Agree with your quote. What on earth were they thinking that night when they left the kids home alone!!!!

You'd think a couple of Doctors wouldn't be so stupid & selfish as to leave their children alone so they can go out for a meal.

 

[Ethan]

Like others, I wouldn't leave the kids alone, but I guess it is easier to be so sure after this tragedy.

I hope the UK Police can bring this case to a close, hopefully in a positive way, and clearly the local Portuguese police botched it. and I do not begrudge my tax money being spent on it.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I don't understand the importance of this one particular child. I'm confident there are plenty of missing children who with 1/2 of the gusto put into the search for MM would be found within the UK.

The parents were at fault, I can't even contemplate leaving my son (4) on his own, anywhere, let alone in a foreign country in a hotel room! That does not mean it is ENTIRELY their fault, but their omission is as much to blame as the person/people who took her.

Unless this girl has some cure for cancer or an equation to turn water into an all nourishing compound which will stop world hunger I do not understand why public money (which it now is as the police are involved) is being spent on this "lost" cause.

I think that you are wrong on all counts.

1) I do not know numbers but I suspect that there are very few if any current missing young UK children for whom there is not an active 'hunt';
2) Even consideration of apportioning blame to the parents is heartless and lacking in humanity; to use that as a part-rationale for being 'fed-up' and that we shouldn't bother with the case any longer is frankly pretty disgraceful
3) By raising a 'value for public money' argument - well...

And after all - what does it matter to you...you have not lost your child - your arguments just reek of spitefulness I'm afraid - you won't like that being said but I am afraid it is true. You may try and dress it up as being 'pragmatic' but I'm afraid that doesn't wash with me. Happy to be shot down if others think I am way off beam.

 

[Deleted member 17920]

Like others, I wouldn't leave the kids alone, but I guess it is easier to be so sure after this

what kind of parent leaves the kids on ther own even if they was 500 yards away, for a whole evening! These are professional people not some couple of shameless. I can't believe the stupidity.

 

[pokerjoke]

I agree that leaving the kids alone that night was both stupid and selfish.
Surely even before going on holiday they must of spoken about this and what they would do.
However I agree that all avenues should be explored and hopefully an outcome can be reached,wether
good or bad.
I suppose unless anyone is in the position of the McCanns we will never ever know what happened that night,
however they will have to live with the guilt for the rest of their lives.

 

[NWJocko]

2) Even consideration of apportioning blame to the parents is heartless and lacking in humanity; to use that as a part-rationale for being 'fed-up' and that we shouldn't bother with the case any longer is frankly pretty disgraceful
.

No, it's the truth.

I have every sympathy with how tough their lives must have been ever since that night but, and its a big but, they wouldn't have had to go through it if they hadn't consciously chosen to leave her alone. That is a fact.

 

[DappaDonDave]

I think that you are wrong on all counts.

1) I do not know numbers but I suspect that there are very few if any current missing young UK children for whom there is not an active 'hunt';
2) Even consideration of apportioning blame to the parents is heartless and lacking in humanity; to use that as a part-rationale for being 'fed-up' and that we shouldn't bother with the case any longer is frankly pretty disgraceful
3) By raising a 'value for public money' argument - well...

And after all - what does it matter to you...you have not lost your child - your arguments just reek of spitefulness I'm afraid - you won't like that being said but I am afraid it is true. You may try and dress it up as being 'pragmatic' but I'm afraid that doesn't wash with me. Happy to be shot down if others think I am way off beam.

1. I'm not saying there isn't active hunts, what I'm saying is that the amount of time, effort and money used to find one missing girl in a foreign country may better be used trying to find countless lost children at home. The mccanns have raised substantial funds and instead of building a lost children's foundation (maybe they have, I don't care to research the topic because they disgust me) and using those funds to help struggling families at home find their children. Similar to the families of children who are struck down by cancer or shot by a yobbo.
2. Brushing aside all the niceness around helping grieving people, facts be the facts, and following a "but for" test and you can not deny it. But for the actions of he mccanns to leave their child alone, in a room, out of sight of themselves and any care giver, their child would not be missing. Now, if they were in the room and they were attacked by some baby snatching lune trying to get their kid, that is different I would be supporting their cause.
3. What of it? I'd rather the police fund drug dealer raids or pedo catching teams than a majority lost cause.

I'm not pragmatic, it's their fault the kid is missing and I have nil sympathy. If I give my kid a knife to play with and he stabs himself do you blame the knife manufacturer for making the knife, the person who sold me the knife or ME.

 

[Pin-seeker]

1. I'm not saying there isn't active hunts, what I'm saying is that the amount of time, effort and money used to find one missing girl in a foreign country may better be used trying to find countless lost children at home. The mccanns have raised substantial funds and instead of building a lost children's foundation (maybe they have, I don't care to research the topic because they disgust me) and using those funds to help struggling families at home find their children. Similar to the families of children who are struck down by cancer or shot by a yobbo.
2. Brushing aside all the niceness around helping grieving people, facts be the facts, and following a "but for" test and you can not deny it. But for the actions of he mccanns to leave their child alone, in a room, out of sight of themselves and any care giver, their child would not be missing. Now, if they were in the room and they were attacked by some baby snatching lune trying to get their kid, that is different I would be supporting their cause.
3. What of it? I'd rather the police fund drug dealer raids or pedo catching teams than a majority lost cause.

I'm not pragmatic, it's their fault the kid is missing and I have nil sympathy. If I give my kid a knife to play with and he stabs himself do you blame the knife manufacturer for making the knife, the person who sold me the knife or ME.

I agree they shouldn't have left the children & they have to take some of the blame. But we're talking about a little girl that didn't ask to be left alone & didn't want some sick individual to take her.
While ever theirs a chance of finding her they should keep the case open IMO.

 

[Imurg]

I agree they shouldn't have left the children & they have to take some of the blame. But we're talking about a little girl that didn't ask to be left alone & didn't want some sick individual to take her.
While ever theirs a chance of finding her they should keep the case open IMO.

Is the correct answer...

 

[Blue in Munich]

I think that you are wrong on all counts.

1) I do not know numbers but I suspect that there are very few if any current missing young UK children for whom there is not an active 'hunt';
2) Even consideration of apportioning blame to the parents is heartless and lacking in humanity; to use that as a part-rationale for being 'fed-up' and that we shouldn't bother with the case any longer is frankly pretty disgraceful
3) By raising a 'value for public money' argument - well...

And after all - what does it matter to you...you have not lost your child - your arguments just reek of spitefulness I'm afraid - you won't like that being said but I am afraid it is true. You may try and dress it up as being 'pragmatic' but I'm afraid that doesn't wash with me. Happy to be shot down if others think I am way off beam.

Well if it's not the parents' fault then do enlighten me as to who is to blame for this happening? They abandoned the child to go out drinking. I can't help but think that if this had been a single parent from a sink estate they would have been hung, drawn and quartered by the court of public opinion by now, yet in this instance people seem to be considering the parents as only partially to blame if not completely blameless, which I simply don't understand.

 

[Kellfire]

I personally don't believe she was taken and I don't believe her parents left her alone.

I'll say no more, legal issues and all that.

 

[ger147]

The person(s) to blame is clearly the person(s) who abducted her. To use your own rationale from earlier, if the person(s) who took her didn't abduct children then she wouldn't be missing even though her parents left her in the apartment unattended.

 

[harpo_72]

Sorry but I agree with swingsitlikehogan, I don't think this is about one child. These people have taken others, if they break this ring they will find lots more. Stopping because you think it is one child is naive, or your hoping you got away with it. As for parents leaving their child alone, well you have 10 years to contemplate this unfortunately so have they. The abducters and users need to be found .. So all of the children are safe and we can have hope....