Kellfire
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The McCann's should have had their remaining children taken from their "care" when Madeleine went missing. Leaving children with such clearly neglecting parents is criminal its own right in my opinion.
Madeleine McCann
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virtuocity
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Define 'neglect' please.
Kellfire
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I don't see how anyone could claim it wasn't neglect. It's cut and dry in this case.
Val
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When girls like Jaycee Dugard can be found after years then there is always hope for Madeleine McCann, we shouldn't finger point now as we all did that years ago and the McCanns know in their heart of hearts what people think so let's hope a fresh case brings this little girl home to her parents.
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DappaDonDave
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I'm glad you said it and not me. I whole heartedly agree.
Liverbirdie
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Well you've got previous for heartless thoughts, and seeing everything measured in pounds shillings and pence.
Should every tragedy be measured in how much it costs the public purse, or the perceived waste of public contributions?
The tsunami charitable funds - sod em, it was there choice to stay in japan? Any others on your "hit" list?
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Too many folks believe tripe the likes of the Daily Express have in the past printed on this.
What do you 'whole heartedly' agree upon? Rumour?, innuendo? What - please tell me. And what gives rise to these feelings of agreement? Is it reason? Is it logic? or is it a weird form of jealousy or indeed warped sense of getting a thrill from the story if the unthinkable might be true - or simply a wish for a thrill from what would be a sensational story. This is real life - this is not a soap opera in which these things happen because in soap operas they do. These are real people - they are not actors playing the parts of desperate and grieving parents - where we are viewers watching a cliff-hanger and fed up that the script writers aren't giving us the 'wow' ending that we expect quite quick enough. A lot of public comment on the McCanns is frankly sick and purile - something that in my view is a direct product of unfortunately too many of us confusing soap plot lines and 'reality' TV with the real thing.
And so we have the horrible state of affairs in which we have many of the public watching and reading about the McCanns, wishing and desperate for the sensational ending for their own pathetic cheap thrill.
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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Cracking Red Top headline and a load of exaggerated tripe.
PhilTheFragger
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Ok ,clearly it's a very emotive subject and we all have our own thoughts and theories about what happened
Let's keep in mind that a little girl went missing, there is nothing to implicate the parents apart from an error of judgement, for which they must beat themselves up every single day.
She may just be alive somewhere , I suspect not, but hope is all they have.
It's clear that the local cops were incompetent ( no surprises there) , but they have had our cops on the case for the last few months and if there was anything to implicate the parents, it would have happened .
I just don't see how people can even suggest that the parents were part of it, it's simply absurd
Let's keep in mind that a little girl went missing, there is nothing to implicate the parents apart from an error of judgement, for which they must beat themselves up every single day.
She may just be alive somewhere , I suspect not, but hope is all they have.
It's clear that the local cops were incompetent ( no surprises there) , but they have had our cops on the case for the last few months and if there was anything to implicate the parents, it would have happened .
I just don't see how people can even suggest that the parents were part of it, it's simply absurd
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Absolutely Phil - and on this they can and do because that's what would happen in the 'soaps', and it's what attention and readership seeking papers think you would want to read about. The two being very closely connected.
Khamelion
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Regardless of what the media reported, the McCann's left their 4yr old daughter unsupervised while they went out for the night and regardless that they periodically went back to the appartment to check, the McCanns should have been charged with neglect. Period.
In the UK if you leave you child, a minor, without the appropriate supervisor and an accident occurs, it is neglect.
From various sources on the Internet:-
Do you think the McCanns were were providing the correct parental attention when she went missing, no they most certainly were not.
NO parent should have to go through what the McCanns have, I agree with that, but they brought that pain and suffering upon themselves through their own stupidity.
In the UK if you leave you child, a minor, without the appropriate supervisor and an accident occurs, it is neglect.
From various sources on the Internet:-
- Child neglect is a deficit in meeting a child's basic needs.
- Child neglect is a ongoing failure to provide the right care and attention to a child's need.
Do you think the McCanns were were providing the correct parental attention when she went missing, no they most certainly were not.
NO parent should have to go through what the McCanns have, I agree with that, but they brought that pain and suffering upon themselves through their own stupidity.
NWJocko
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Choice of words could have been better but why is this "tripe"? The parents have admitted to their misjudgement in leaving her alone but you seem to think they are blameless, unless I'm misinterpreting your posts?
FWIW I hope this attempt finds her. I know if it was one of my girls the government could never spend too much money looking for her......
Khamelion
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Absurb it most certainly is not, the human mind can be driven to all kinds of evil, what about Mick and Mairead Philpott who's crackpot plan to frame the husband's estranged mistress for an arson, ended up in them killing 6 of their kids. So any suggestion that something altogether more sinister happened to Madelaine is not absurb at all.
Khamelion
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Here, Here, if it was my daughter I share you sentiment whole heartedly. The McCans were stupid to the Nth degree, but a good outcome would be for them to be reunited with their daughter, the parents do not deserve it, but Madelaine does.
PhilTheFragger
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Yes but even Mick Philpott didnt mean to kill his kids, he wanted to be the hero and save them and it all went wrong.
Dont get me wrong, Philpott is scum and deserves to be where he is. the McCanns cant be tarred with the same brush, yes they made a mistake, But did they arrange her disappearance??? I think not. Thats the difference.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
On what grounds can you suggest this other than that of the case not being solved. I honestly believe that there are folks out there who actually want the 'answer' to be something more sinister - so they can say - 'ah - knew it all along'.
Look - I will (shamefully) admit that on my first listenings of Gerry McCann being interviewed, my thoughts were 'smarmy posh Catholic boy' and on that basis alone my non-catholic west of Scotland mind jumped to a position of suspicion - a position that quite quickly on reflection I realised was disgraceful (and shameful) as it was purely one of very unfortunate prejudice on my part (those who know the WoS mentality will I hope understand and forgive). And as soon as I realised that, I also knew how wrong I was to even contemplate taking such a view on the matter - a view wholly unjustified in having no basis or footing in reason or fact.
And so to today - so many years on - when the McCanns could have faded into the background and got on with life with their twins. But no - they are determined to keep their loss high profile. Of course the 'machiavellian' theorists would have me believe that - being smart cookies - the McCanns would do exactly this to make it seem even more unlikely that the most heinous of crimes could have been committed. But hey - maybe they just desperately want to find their child and don't want us to forget she is missing - presumed alive.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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So very harsh - oh were we all so perfect as to be able to foresee the completely unforeseeable.
DappaDonDave
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Is it not reasonable to foresee that leaving your child alone may cause some form of problem regardless of the enormity of the problem.
As mentioned, the parents should have been locked up and their remaining children's primary care provided by a family member, if I left my son at home alone and someone found out, I'm sure the local social worker would love to hear about it, or because I live in a nice area,does that get bypassed and it's all ok?
Again I reiterate, why all the fuss about this one girl, is she the messiah?
Maybe I do occasionally have polarized ideology, but sometimes fluffing something up in niceness doesn't cut it.
Pin-seeker
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End of the day you shouldn't leave kids unattended. It shouldn't even cross your mind. Like already said ,if it was a couple of Scratters off the Jeremy Kyle show that had done it they'd be hammered for it. It is neglect.
Hacker Khan
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I think they are being hammered for it, both emotionally and certainly on this message board/forums, and I am sure a few others. Which I am sure makes people feel better.
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