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A sub section of that culture. Excusing it is akin to excusing apartheid in South Africa. Don’t be an apologist, you must be better than that?

Don't give me the "you must be better than that line" mate. I grew up in West Yorskhire amongst the mills and towns that have become home for loads of immigrants and their descendants from Pakistan. Loads of them still live by traditional values, and I've no need to apologies whatsoever for pointing that out.
 
Don't give me the "you must be better than that line" mate. I grew up in West Yorskhire amongst the mills and towns that have become home for loads of immigrants and their descendants from Pakistan. Loads of them still live by traditional values, and I've no need to apologies whatsoever for pointing that out.

You’ll be fully aware then of just how widespread domestic abuse is, or the number of under aged arranged marriages that take place, or forced abortions that take place if a pregnant woman is believed to be carrying a girl, or the number of girls who simply go missing after going abroad?

But all of that is ok if it’s the traditional values of a particular group?
 
You’ll be fully aware then of just how widespread domestic abuse is, or the number of under aged arranged marriages that take place, or forced abortions that take place if a pregnant woman is believed to be carrying a girl, or the number of girls who simply go missing after going abroad?

But all of that is ok if it’s the traditional values of a particular group?

Lol. God loves a trier BiM.
 
Big golf based businesses in competition will raise interest and feathers will fly as the self-righteous preach moralistic stance and fight change: what a surprise!
 
I wonder how many people in this thread are using a devise made off the back of child labour? Or wearing cloths made by a 10 year old boy on a bag of rice a week. As long as its cheap though ey ?
 
Even if Saudi women don't care about driving, the fact that they didn't have a legal choice in the matter until a few years ago is pretty shocking. The quote from Norman recently about seeing women out at dinner as if it was some kind of amazing freedom, says all you need to know.
 
Even if Saudi women don't care about driving, the fact that they didn't have a legal choice in the matter until a few years ago is pretty shocking. The quote from Norman recently about seeing women out at dinner as if it was some kind of amazing freedom, says all you need to know.
My issue is that your opinion (and many others) is just that "opinion". Its not a fact that what they are doing is wrong. It's a cultural difference. maybe they think the uk shouldn't have their money because of the way our government treated the elderly during the pandemic.
Whilst I agree with your opinion you need to understand culture and differences. If other nations don't agree then you simply vote with your feet. I just don't like it when people get mad at people for not agreeing with their opinions. Especially when most of us would chuck our gran under a bus for the money being offered out
 
I wonder how many people in this thread are using a devise made off the back of child labour? Or wearing cloths made by a 10 year old boy on a bag of rice a week. As long as its cheap though ey ?

Is it the same though ?

As consumers we don’t have much choice where a company makes their equipment.

The players know exactly where the money is coming from and they do have a choice
 
Is it the same though ?

As consumers we don’t have much choice where a company makes their equipment.

The players know exactly where the money is coming from and they do have a choice
You can choose if you want a £2 shirt from a certain high street store or pay the extra for British made.
The point I'm trying to make is some people take the moral high ground on the saudi thing but sprint to the discount shop for cheap school uniforms. Pick a side is what I'm trying to say

Or you could buy Nokia instead of that hwaiawa company (I can't spell it ?). Nokia probably buy Chinese parts too so I get your point
 
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Yes, but you did confess to being a prick yourself, so it may still be true you have a prejudicial dislike to people from West Yorkshire :D

Fair point well made. I’m not prejudiced against anyone. I dislike almost everyone equally, apart from Richard heads. I dislike them more ?
 
You can choose if you want a £2 shirt from a certain high street store or pay the extra for British made.
The point I'm trying to make is some people take the moral high ground on the saudi thing but sprint to the discount shop for cheap school uniforms. Pick a side is what I'm trying to say

Or you could buy Nokia instead of that hwaiawa company (I can't spell it ?). Nokia probably buy Chinese parts too so I get your point

It's hard, especially if you're trying to be ethical with no money to buy the ethical alternatives. Given that there is a world of difference between "buying a shirt for £2" and accepting $200m from the Crown Prince of Saudis personal fund, especially when you've already earned $74m in prize money alone.

I just can't comprehend what anyone does with that kind of money. Imagine the difference that $200m could make to some folks lives...
 
If you would organise a 3 day event, would you skip the Sunday? Or would you rather skip the Thursday?

For players it might be nice having a family Sunday. I just wonder if there missed out on larger viewing figures that way?
 
Did you watch any of the Saudi Liv golf ?
If yes,why
If no,why?

No. Because it wasnt a real golf tournament. Very low field quality (same reason that I dont normally watch the European tour). And the title is worthless. Canadian Open alternative is the genuine article.

But to be clear though, I have no issue on the moral point. If the worlds top golfers are all there, I will be watching it. Hopefully at that point, LIV will ditch the circus elements, and make it about world level individual competitive golf again. And on real TV, not a platform for skateboarding monkeys and hilarious clips of kids falling off a school play stage or whatever.
 
If you would organise a 3 day event, would you skip the Sunday? Or would you rather skip the Thursday?

For players it might be nice having a family Sunday. I just wonder if there missed out on larger viewing figures that way?
Possibly because DJ, Phil and a few others are due at the US Open for a practice round tomorrow....
 
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