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Of course they are already incredibly wealthy. But, it is human nature. I imagine few to none of us are queuing outside food banks either? I am sure some of us are quite comfortable. But, if you had the chance to increase your salary multiple times over, and have an extra day or 2 off a week, I wouldn't negatively judge you for taking that new job. If you don't, someone else will just take it anyway.

People keep perpetuating the myth that nobody has any morals or ethics and that we'd all accept £x much more to do the same job even regardless of who was paying. This has already been knocked back by professional golfers who haven't taken the money. Not everyone is driven by money. If they were the hospitals that look after you wouldn't have any nurses in them.

I remember walking to work on the day I'd been paid and I had £20 to last me the month. I've also avoided jobs with companies and organisations I don't agree with. Your mileage may vary.
 

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Thought I'd watch a bit.
Seems Centurion has been a decent test and split the field (albeit small).
Bit surprised they haven't been pushing the 'team leaderboard' more as on last 9 holes. (Not that I'm especially interested in it)
Several South Africans always seem to regularly play well in blighty in summer.
 

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People keep perpetuating the myth that nobody has any morals or ethics and that we'd all accept £x much more to do the same job even regardless of who was paying. This has already been knocked back by professional golfers who haven't taken the money. Not everyone is driven by money. If they were the hospitals that look after you wouldn't have any nurses in them.

I remember walking to work on the day I'd been paid and I had £20 to last me the month. I've also avoided jobs with companies and organisations I don't agree with. Your mileage may vary.
The reason many have not yet left is because they find it too risky to their PGA Career. They have much more to lose. I am positive they are not sticking to the PGA because they think "I have more than enough money anyway".

Patrick Reed confirmed now
 

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The most memorable moments of the LIV so far.?

Shipnuck calling out Norman after being escorted off the premises and him actually witnessing it

Lad getting hit in the arse and going down like bishop brennan

I’ve enjoyed the off field antics more than the golf tbf absolutely love the fact they’re selling pimento cheese sandwiches also ??
 

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The reason many have not yet left is because they find it too risky to their PGA Career. They have much more to lose. I am positive they are not sticking to the PGA because they think "I have more than enough money anyway".

Maybe the case for some, but the idea that everyone would take the money is facile.

Patrick Reed confirmed now

My only surprise was he didn't go earlier.

Captain Saudi?
 

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I’ve watched about half an hour of it now.

It feels like watching a Europro event. If it wasn’t for the commentators reminding me every 30 seconds how exciting it was it would be pretty uninspiring. I did particularly enjoy being told how popular Patrick Reed is ?

There doesn’t look to be very many there. I’d seen reports that there were more people coming in for the concert with their free tickets than watched the golf yesterday.

Also the constant pushing of the team element. Does anyone really care about the team element?

At least the shotgun format will give us an exciting finish to see who wins!
 

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Maybe the case for some, but the idea that everyone would take the money is facile.



My only surprise was he didn't go earlier.

Captain Saudi?
True, I cannot speak for every single individual. But, generally, I am pretty sure the vast majority of pro's would happily earn significantly more money if there was little risk to their career. Which is why I am curious to see what happens as more big name players make the switch.

I'm sure the European Tour used to have some big players who earned a good living. However, in the last 10-20 years the lure of the PGA and the increased money was too great.
 

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I’ve watched about half an hour of it now.

It feels like watching a Europro event. If it wasn’t for the commentators reminding me every 30 seconds how exciting it was it would be pretty uninspiring. I did particularly enjoy being told how popular Patrick Reed is ?

There doesn’t look to be very many there. I’d seen reports that there were more people coming in for the concert with their free tickets than watched the golf yesterday.

Also the constant pushing of the team element. Does anyone really care about the team element?

At least the shotgun format will give us an exciting finish to see who wins!
Exciting finish? Only if Schwartzel blows his 5 shot lead on the back 9. Though no idea who has the easiest and hardest holes to play?
 

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Exciting finish? Only if Schwartzel blows his 5 shot lead on the back 9. Though no idea who has the easiest and hardest holes to play?

I was being sarcastic. We were told that the format would give us an exciting finish. Remember that Billy Horschel winning last week was considered boring.

On a separate note. Anyone who thinks it’s easy to hit a fairway by hitting an iron off the tee for safety, should really be watching this.
 

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9/11 survivors group send letter to 11 US LIV Golfers

https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/phil-mickelson-other-liv-golf-players-ripped-by-9-11-group/

“Given Saudi Arabia’s role in the death of our loved ones and those injured on 9/11—your fellow Americans—we are angered that you are so willing to help the Saudis cover up this history in their request for ‘respectability.’ When you partner with the Saudis, you become complicit with their whitewash, and help give them the reputational cover they so desperately crave—and are willing to pay handsomely to manufacture. The Saudis do not care about the deep-rooted sportsmanship of golf or its origins as a gentleman’s game built upon core values of mutual respect and personal integrity. They care about using professional golf to whitewash their reputation, and they are paying you to help them do it.

More players are also expected to defect from the PGA Tour to LIV Golf, which is backed by the Public Investment Fund — the Saudi sovereign wealth fund headed by crown prince Mohammed bin Salman that is essentially bankrolling the series. MBS, as he is known, was behind the murder of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, in 2018, according to US intelligence.”

“We understand that some of you are hopeful that rule changes will be implemented to allow you to again represent America in the Ryder Cup, despite your betrayal of American interests in joining the Saudi ‘sports wash,'” Strada said in the letter. “It is absurd for any American who chooses Saudi oil money over the September 11 community to think that these exceptions should be made, and we will be sure to say so publicly should you pursue that path under the misguided notion that your betrayal will go unnoticed.”
 

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They’re not allowed to criticise the disgusting human rights record of the Saudi lads as they’ve no doubt not led perfectly flawless lives … they’ve probs used an Uber or subscribed to Disney plus and their teles from China

Also the above means they can’t highlight that executing journalists is very bad because the pga tour denies the players use of their image rights iirc
 
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