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Well it looks like LIV are wanting to distance themselves from Trump as well, so my Turnberry prediction was way off… 
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Well it looks like LIV are wanting to distance themselves from Trump as well, so my Turnberry prediction was way off…
Also looks like they are going to go against some big other comps - Memorial , Pebble Beach , Travellers and Scottish Open - very bold especially going against Memorial and Scottish - two of the biggest non major events in the year.
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If Bryson was playing his golf of the last 3-4 months on the PGA Tour he would have been a shoe in for the USA Ryder Cup team for sure.
Lets deal with some facts.
A T4 and T20 in the majors before he started to hit his stride.
A stroke average of 67.80 in his last 10 tour events including a 58.
As Jon Rahm said no matter what tour you are playing to shoot 58 to close out a tournament is very impressive and that also applies to a scoring average of 67.80
For some comparison last 10 tour events scoring avg for
Brooks Koepka - 68.43
Rory Mcilroy - 68.05
Scottie S - 68.35
If you have been a regular viewer of Liv events it would be plainly obvious how good Bryson has been playing and doing it on courses like Valderama where you have to be straight.
However on this occasion there is so much more to consider than just playing good enough golf to earn your spot on the RC Team.
With everything that has gone on between PGAT/Liv and Bryson has been more at the forefront of it (Lawsuit for example) it was impossible for Zach Johnson to pick him and take a chance on having some unrest in the team room.
Brooks has kept himself to himself, stayed pretty neutral and staying good pals with a lot of his Ryder Cup teammates.
Maybe just maybe if Bryson had done the same he would have been in closer consideration for the team.
Lets deal with some facts.
A T4 and T20 in the majors before he started to hit his stride.
A stroke average of 67.80 in his last 10 tour events including a 58.
As Jon Rahm said no matter what tour you are playing to shoot 58 to close out a tournament is very impressive and that also applies to a scoring average of 67.80
For some comparison last 10 tour events scoring avg for
Brooks Koepka - 68.43
Rory Mcilroy - 68.05
Scottie S - 68.35
If you have been a regular viewer of Liv events it would be plainly obvious how good Bryson has been playing and doing it on courses like Valderama where you have to be straight.
However on this occasion there is so much more to consider than just playing good enough golf to earn your spot on the RC Team.
With everything that has gone on between PGAT/Liv and Bryson has been more at the forefront of it (Lawsuit for example) it was impossible for Zach Johnson to pick him and take a chance on having some unrest in the team room.
Brooks has kept himself to himself, stayed pretty neutral and staying good pals with a lot of his Ryder Cup teammates.
Maybe just maybe if Bryson had done the same he would have been in closer consideration for the team.
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Koepka got his pick because he did it in a major , that got him into the automatic spaces right up until the end
Both captains haven’t imo taken any notice of the performances on the LIV tour - and imo it’s not a comparison to the other tours because of the make up
Stats etc - it’s all irrelevant ,
If BDC had done it in the majors and crossed the line winning one of those he would be there
Someone could win every single LIV event and the player still wouldn’t be picked
If he had the same level of performance on the PGA then he would have qualified by right
And as you say BDC is a divisive character and that’s increased since moving to LIV - it’s why none of the Europeans were even considered, it’s all just too divisive.
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Just to be clear you dont watch any Liv events though right ?
LIV events give no measure of its players standing, thats the problem. It doesnt matter how many wins, scores, etc. whether watched or not. Its apples and oranges versus the PGAT, and there is no conversion.
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That’s doesn’t matter when it comes to the point I was making
It doesn’t matter how well a player is playing on LIV - neither team was going to pick a player based on their performances for LIV.
Their selection for Ryder Cup was based on their performances during the qualifying tournaments
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BubbaP
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Interesting...
www.golfmonthly.com
LIV Golfers Invited Into Next Week's DP World Tour Event
Four LIV Golf players have been invited to appear in the Alfred Dunhill Links Championship on the DP World Tour
www.golfmonthly.com
Mel Smooth
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Interesting...
LIV Golfers Invited Into Next Week's DP World Tour Event
Four LIV Golf players have been invited to appear in the Alfred Dunhill Links Championship on the DP World Tour
Can't wait for the 'can't have your cake and eat it' guys declaring these players should be nowhere near the event....
Oh hang on, it's just the Dunhill on the DP World tour, so it doesn't matter... ;-)
I'm seen it is the sponsor that wants them there.Interesting...
LIV Golfers Invited Into Next Week's DP World Tour Event
Four LIV Golf players have been invited to appear in the Alfred Dunhill Links Championship on the DP World Tour
Which in my opinion could be a big thing going forward, sponsors pay a lot of money for these tournaments and obviously want to see a return on their investment.
If it was your money, you would want the best players there, regardless of tour.
It’s starts to get a bit messy. Which sponsors want them in? Who do those sponsors deal with commercially, and where is their biggest growth potential? Have LIV leveraged the sponsors, elbow up the back, with threats of losing business?
I’m all for sponsors invites but not a backdoor way of forcing non-DP Tour players into comps and excluding DP players who’ve stayed loyal to the tour.
Interesting that these are some of the low profile liv golfers. A gently, gently approach?
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Tour loyalty is a myth that has been pushed by the tours since last year. Players have always gone to where their opportunities are greatest or the culture & schedule suits. As such, very few outside the PGAT/KFT and JGTO have ever remained on their domestic tour given the opportunity at greater prize money elsewhere. If it weren't for RC eligibility, most top European players wouldn't still be members of the ET at all.
Also, the DL has always had a sprinkling of non-ET members (as have many other ET events). I don't remember anyone complaining about them taking spots from (non-exempt) members before.
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At the moment it could be looked at a little bit differently because of the event it is and it’s make up - sponsers have a big say in regards which players can play so I don’t think it will be the start of ways to bring in players through the back door
Obviously over the years there have been sponsers invites for certain players - mainly local pros etc and then the likes of Woods etc but I wouldn’t expect the likes of Westwood and Co getting a sponser invite
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Interesting...
LIV Golfers Invited Into Next Week's DP World Tour Event
Four LIV Golf players have been invited to appear in the Alfred Dunhill Links Championship on the DP World Tour
Tournament organising committee could have just said no thats not possible.
Its an olive branch, a seedling but an olive branch non the less.
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Very interesting that the PGA Tour put out a statement that they are also looking at outside investment as well as continuing to strike a deal with the PIF
Great timing on the eve of the biggest golf event in the world so it goes under the radar
""Our focus continues to be on finalizing an agreement with the Public Investment Fund and the DP World Tour, however, our negotiations have resulted in unsolicited interest from other investors," PGA said in a statement on Wednesday."
Great timing on the eve of the biggest golf event in the world so it goes under the radar
""Our focus continues to be on finalizing an agreement with the Public Investment Fund and the DP World Tour, however, our negotiations have resulted in unsolicited interest from other investors," PGA said in a statement on Wednesday."
Or more correctly, other outside investors are looking at the PGAT.
Mel Smooth
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The PGA are obviously doing everything they can to avoid taking the Saudi money - even though the damage is already done to their moralistic stance they wanted to use to defend their position.
Bottom line - the money wins, so whoever offers the most of it will be partnering the PGA Tour - We'll just have to wait and see who that turns out to be..
Bottom line - the money wins, so whoever offers the most of it will be partnering the PGA Tour - We'll just have to wait and see who that turns out to be..
