BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
I'm a bit surprised the Golf Monthly team haven't changed the thread title! ??
LIV Golf
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PhilTheFragger
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As if by magic ?
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Via Golf Channel
Players anti trust lawsuit will take years of litigation.
In the meantime according to expert lawyer on the program a very good chance players named in the case will get injunction relief to enter Fed Ex playoffs if they qualify and I guess PGA Tour events till the case is concluded.
Was always going to get messy but its about to get really messy/ even nasty if that comes to pass..
Players anti trust lawsuit will take years of litigation.
In the meantime according to expert lawyer on the program a very good chance players named in the case will get injunction relief to enter Fed Ex playoffs if they qualify and I guess PGA Tour events till the case is concluded.
Was always going to get messy but its about to get really messy/ even nasty if that comes to pass..
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Would any have enough points to qualify this yr?
GB72
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That could get even more messy as, if the courts found in favour of the LIV golfers then their case could include damages for losses from being denied entry to events to allow them to qualify. Not saying it will happen (I think it highly unlikely) but you pile enough potential damages into a law suit and then push for it it settle based simply on the LIV golfers being allowed to compete on the PGA Tour. Clever strategy potentially.
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Think three of them already have enough points. Taylor Cooch is one I think
Swango1980
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Even if the LIV players win their case, I think they will be losers anyway (at least in terms of playing tours outside LIV). I just can't imagine it will be a lot of fun for them playing on the PGA Tour when they know for a fact that the people that run the PGA Tour simply don't want them there. There'll be some very awkward moments when they bump into each other around the venues
evemccc
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There will be zero coverage of them unless they’re challenging and I reckon there will be scant coverage even if they are
Springveldt
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Awkward or not they will still have the right to play there. Also a lot of money on offer and as the LIV guys have shown, that’s #1 for them.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Always assuming they actually attended of course. Maybe they're just seeking their (perceived) 'right' to choose whether to play in a pgat event
Hoganman1
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I agree that it should not be called "the Saudi Golf League". I prefer "the Bone Saw Tour".
evemccc
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With the amount of coverage the LIV golfers, and therefore golf, has got, I would hope that this is recognised in the PIP payouts this year…..certainly those names have ‘moved the needle’ and generated plenty of social media engagement around golf
Or am I missing something?!?
#growingthegame
#movingtheneedle
Or am I missing something?!?
#growingthegame
#movingtheneedle
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Yes if they win this lawsuit they will gain the access to play the PGA Tour events and UNBELIEVABLY claim for loss of earnings and potentially world ranking points..
This is a seminal moment for the world of professional golf..
Mickleson said right at the beginning it gave them the lever to leverage the PGA Tour and all those players have their hand on that lever right now..
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Does that mean we can call the PGA the Bigot Tour? ??
Foxholer
Blackballed
That's why (the tactical approach) they are requesting an injunction that allows them to play pending resolution. I suspect that, given the consequences of denial, then a subsequent court win, an injunction will be allowed. LIV has also apparently picked a 'sympathetic' court.
Hoganman1
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Hah!
BTatHome
Tour Winner
Why does everyone always mention the LIV tour players as being money grabbing, like when they were playing the PGA Tour they did it for free and the adulation only? Come on, surely when golfers start playing for million dollar purses, and not entering every event available then they are choosing to chase the money, even if its the PGA tour.
interesting to see the words used by the pga tour press release. when talking about pga tour players they are "members", but when they leave they have become employees of the LIV tour !
interesting to see the words used by the pga tour press release. when talking about pga tour players they are "members", but when they leave they have become employees of the LIV tour !
Swango1980
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I'm not making any comments on their rights or not. I've not read the small print to have an expert opinion either way. We can let the lawyers figure that one out.
I'm simply saying that, regardless of what their main motivations are for doing anything, they are still human beings. They may be picking up huge sums of money from LIV, but even if they get their wish of playing on the PGA Tour again, the price they pay will continue to be the complete breakdown of relations between themselves and many on the PGA Tour (not just the players on the PGA Tour). Going back before all this kicked off, the likes of Phil Mickleson would have been one of the darlings of the PGA. I'm sure many hugely respected him, they'd roll out the red carpet for him, so to speak. Many of the other top players would have been well respected, and treated accordingly as they went about their business (their lives do not stop when they finish their round and no longer on our TV screens). So, if they do get back on the PGA Tour, I was simply saying that life will not go back to what they had been used to. Things will be a lot colder between many other people.
They'll still be pocketing their cash, and living lives we could only dream off. So I'm not feeling sorry for them. It might just be a niggling irritation that they know many people around them no longer respect or treat them anywhere near the way they used to.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Probably because it was the money on offer that convinced them to move! Any other motives are either 2ndry or related to the money!
The PGAT reference as 'members' is entirely reasonable, because that's what they are! PGAT membership for those who went to LIV has been suspended. I'm not certain of their status with LIV. I suspect they are not 'employees' in the legal definition - but re, as they were with TPGAT, independent contractors.
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slowhand
Head Pro
That's because the PGA Tour is a member's organisation (kind of like a cooperative). The LIV players are all under contract to the league. They are paid and required to play all the events in the schedule, so can in some sense be compared to employees. PGA members are not required to play any particular tournaments, as long as they fulfil the 15 event minimum (unless lifetime exempt)
