Is your club Charging Fees for the time the course will be closed?

[Deleted member 16999]

Have only played there once in an open... good day out! Played with an ex-member - Davey Turner - top craic! The pro shop seems really good and pro-active online too

Andrew’s quality, will always give best price.

Love Seaton myself, was a member for a couple of years a few years back and if it was 15 minutes closer I’d still be there.

 

[jim8flog]

One nice new update from the club.

Anybody who has been asked to remain at home for 12 weeks for being in the at risk group will get a credit for any period the club is open during the 12 weeks

 

[Zig]

Andrew’s quality, will always give best price.

Love Seaton myself, was a member for a couple of years a few years back and if it was 15 minutes closer I’d still be there.

Love it... lucky with it's location too - if it was on the south coast on the Southport stretch it'd be three times the price. If it wasn't for the location/industry it'd be twice as high in the rankings too!

 

[jim8flog]

Email out from the manager to say that around two thirds of the members had renewed and deadline extended to 7th April.

Should be sufficient for us to avoid problems in the short term.

One thing that me think somebody had not thought it through - he apparently said to another member he was not going to renew. He also took the view that if the club went to the wall he would get a share of the sale of the assets!! If I had been speaking to him I would have told him he would not because he would not be a member.

 

[IanM]

Just had the email from our Club.

- Subs all paid in January, the financial issue will be loss of marginal revenue from bar and green fees. Will have to tighten belt to accommodate
- Staff put on short time or laid off will continue to be paid by club and we will attempt to cover all/some from the Govt aid.
- And here is the key bit - quote "As co owners of the Club we all have a responsibility to support it. Therefore no refund of subs for time lost will be made. This is vital for the health of the club. Initiatives to support the Pro and Caterers are under discussion." etc etc


I am ok with that as I understand the deal. Some may resign their membership and be entitled to pro-rata refund for rest of year. Rejoining would then require any joining fee. So, will be interesting to see which route some take.

I think the club is wealthy and stable enough to see this out... many will not be.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Had this through

As the Covid-19 crisis continues to impact our daily lives, it seems a month since HM Government announced greater restrictions but in reality it is just over a week!
A week in politics is a long time as Harold Wilson once said, and at the club the same can be said about the amount of work that has gone on behind the scenes by the Directors as we work to reduce costs and protect the clubhouse and golf course during the closedown.
Whilst it has been necessary to furlough some of our staff within the office and clubhouse, we appreciate their understanding during this difficult time and hope to see them back full time when normal service resumes.
Our Green staff continue to maintain the golf course while ensuring they exercise good social distancing. The grass factory is now in full production thanks to the wettest winter and the warming soil due to the arrival of Spring. As a result the head greenkeeper and his small team are ensuring the course is maintained to an acceptable level so that once restrictions are lifted we will be back out on the fairways with minimal delay.
All of this work comes at a cost and at a time when 3rd party income from green fees and societies together with our bar trade sales, all of which are so important to the clubs’ finances has dried up overnight. As such we are exploring all avenues so that we benefit from the support packages announced by Government due to the Coronavirus and we are also in discussion with our landlord regarding our rental obligations.
Your club is a members owned golf club and your ongoing commitment and continued support will be essential to allow us to provide a golf course and club for us all to enjoy once Covid-19 is binned to history. Your Club Captain is already working on proposals to see an orderly return to the golf course that will benefit members once the Government allows.
Finally we have many friends at the club, some whom may be required to self isolate or may live alone. Whilst we cannot nip around for cup of tea or something stronger and a chat, we can give them a call on the telephone to catch up and relive the odd birdie or story – As they say “It’s good to chat!!”
Stay safe everyone and thank you for your continued support.

 

[fundy]

Had this through

As the Covid-19 crisis continues to impact our daily lives, it seems a month since HM Government announced greater restrictions but in reality it is just over a week!
A week in politics is a long time as Harold Wilson once said, and at the club the same can be said about the amount of work that has gone on behind the scenes by the Directors as we work to reduce costs and protect the clubhouse and golf course during the closedown.
Whilst it has been necessary to furlough some of our staff within the office and clubhouse, we appreciate their understanding during this difficult time and hope to see them back full time when normal service resumes.
Our Green staff continue to maintain the golf course while ensuring they exercise good social distancing. The grass factory is now in full production thanks to the wettest winter and the warming soil due to the arrival of Spring. As a result the head greenkeeper and his small team are ensuring the course is maintained to an acceptable level so that once restrictions are lifted we will be back out on the fairways with minimal delay.
All of this work comes at a cost and at a time when 3rd party income from green fees and societies together with our bar trade sales, all of which are so important to the clubs’ finances has dried up overnight. As such we are exploring all avenues so that we benefit from the support packages announced by Government due to the Coronavirus and we are also in discussion with our landlord regarding our rental obligations.
Your club is a members owned golf club and your ongoing commitment and continued support will be essential to allow us to provide a golf course and club for us all to enjoy once Covid-19 is binned to history. Your Club Captain is already working on proposals to see an orderly return to the golf course that will benefit members once the Government allows.
Finally we have many friends at the club, some whom may be required to self isolate or may live alone. Whilst we cannot nip around for cup of tea or something stronger and a chat, we can give them a call on the telephone to catch up and relive the odd birdie or story – As they say “It’s good to chat!!”
Stay safe everyone and thank you for your continued support.

sounds like a lot of words to not actually say anything!

 

[louise_a]

We are getting regular email updates from our secretary,as I have said before our year runs from 1st April, already 102 members have renewed, which is encouraging.

 

[fundy]

We are getting regular email updates from our secretary,as I have said before our year runs from 1st April, already 102 members have renewed, which is encouraging.

out of how many members Louise? doesnt sound that many based on a lot of clubs

 

[louise_a]

out of how many members Louise? doesnt sound that many based on a lot of clubs

I believe about 350-400. the promising thing is these 102 have paid as soon as subs are due, people are given until the end of the month before being chased.

 

[fundy]

I believe about 350-400. the promising thing is these 102 have paid as soon as subs are due, people are given until the end of the month before being chased.

ok promising as you say based on those numbers, course must have to battle to survive anyway with that few members?

 

[louise_a]

ok promising as you say based on those numbers, course must have to battle to survive anyway with that few members?

Subs account for about 65% of income, so the sting is going to be the loss in bar income and green fees, overall last year we lost £4000, so we weren't doing too bad.

 

[fundy]

Subs account for about 65% of income, so the sting is going to be the loss in bar income and green fees, overall last year we lost £4000, so we weren't doing too bad.

yep the clubs that have strong bar/catering takings and money from green fees/societies etc are going to feel the pinch for sure, hope the club comes out the other side

 

[jim8flog]

Subs account for about 65% of income, so the sting is going to be the loss in bar income and green fees, overall last year we lost £4000, so we weren't doing too bad.

I remember once putting up a suggestion that we keep all income from societies etc to pay for capital projects. I was informed that would probably mean a 50% increase in our membership fees.
£4000 is quite good we have had years when it has been £40000.

 

[fundy]

I remember once putting up a suggestion that we keep all income from societies etc to pay for capital projects. I was informed that would probably mean a 50% increase in our membership fees.
£4000 is quite good we have had years when it has been £40000.

plenty of clubs bite your arm off for 40k this year

 

[Papas1982]

Latest from the captain.

Dear members,
What an extraordinary period in history we are going through. I hope that you and your families are as well as can be expected at the current time and, like Jordan, you have managed to build something resembling a golf net in your back garden to keep the levers and muscles in tune.
You hear of amazing acts of kindness at times like this and I am aware that some of the Princes staff are helping to deliver medicines locally to support the NHS. Truly wonderful and we thank you very much for all that you are doing.
We live in humbling times and I just want to extend our thanks to Rob and Ali for the regular messages that they send. They did everything they could to keep the course open for as long as possible and will re-open for members as soon as that is feasible under Government edits. The course is being kept in first class condition ahead of re-opening.
There is no intention to suspend memberships, but I do know that Rob will do something if we are not able to play by the summer. Let’s make sure, please, that we support our club as much as possible in these difficult times.

kinda what I’d expected. If summer is ruined then they’d probably face a backlash if no compromise, but being a popular club they don’t need to pander to needs just yet.

 

[Jacko_G]

We also got an email through and reading between the lines the loss of revenue will be passed and shared between all members next year which isn't what I would have expected and I certainly don't like.

 

[Parsaregood]

We also got an email through and reading between the lines the loss of revenue will be passed and shared between all members next year which isn't what I would have expected and I certainly don't like.

Drop in the ocean for most of the gailes 1 members I'd imagine ?

 

[Fish]

yep the clubs that have strong bar/catering takings and money from green fees/societies etc are going to feel the pinch for sure, hope the club comes out the other side

I spend upwards of £2k a year over the bar for food & drinks on top of my subs, multiply that by just my Fri/Sat/Sun group and the club are losing a bucket load of cash from us

The club have predicted the loss we will make as I mentioned in a previous post, and that's with our year being from August 1st, so all our subs (750+ members) are in, so the loss is mainly bar & food takings and of course societies, of which we have many on Wednesday's & Thursday's throughout the year.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I spend upwards of £2k a year over the bar for food & drinks on top of my subs, multiply that by just my Fri/Sat/Sun group and the club are losing a bucket load of cash from us

The club have predicted the loss we will make as I mentioned in a previous post, and that's with our year being from August 1st, so all our subs (750+ members) are in, so the loss is mainly bar & food takings and of course societies, of which we have many on Wednesday's & Thursday's throughout the year.

You and me both buddy. I would be up the club every evening by now working on my game and would usually nip into the bar after for a few beers and a natter. Add in our roll up groups collective spends at weekends (we have three large Saturday groups who are good spenders). We also weren't overly reliant on societies but have had a few large and repeat groups coming for many years which make a huge difference. Chuck the green fees in on top and it's a lot of cash currently missing