Indyref2

[drdel]

An independent Scotland needs all 27 as supporters. It would have a bigger problem getting support of the newer Eastern 'bloc' members than changing the mind of France and Spain. It was these members that frustrated the trade deal with Canada and its mates.

 

[Fish]

Discussions can happen... just imagine

Nicola says. Och.. "how much cash can you give me for my social welfare agenda"

Angela replies... "You're having a laugh love!" "We're skint as old socks...we were hoping you'd be coughing up what the UK once did!"

Nicola then says, "you can have a CRACKERJACK pencil" 😜

 

[FairwayDodger]

An independent Scotland needs all 27 as supporters. It would have a bigger problem getting support of the newer Eastern 'bloc' members than changing the mind of France and Spain. It was these members that frustrated the trade deal with Canada and its mates.

Do you think? I expect they'd be quite keen to re-establish free movement of their people to come here.

Can't believe all the doom and gloom on this subject. I'm fiercely against independence but really can't believe we'd have trouble joining the EU. Whether Nicola etc would choose to rejoin is another matter, most of the brexit posturing is just to drive a wedge between us to get their indy goal.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Nicola then says, "you can have a CRACKERJACK pencil" 😜

This just doesn't get old. It's childish but I'm sat here chuckling away at the thought.

 

[Val]

I understand that Germany would be quite keen on an independent Scotland joining the EU as a replacement for the rest of the UK.

Germany has plenty left to bail another failing economy out I take it?

 

[Val]

Do you think? I expect they'd be quite keen to re-establish free movement of their people to come here.

Can't believe all the doom and gloom on this subject. I'm fiercely against independence but really can't believe we'd have trouble joining the EU. Whether Nicola etc would choose to rejoin is another matter, most of the brexit posturing is just to drive a wedge between us to get their indy goal.

I don't disagree with the sentiment but it will boil down to hard cash at the end of the day and Scotlands spending against GDP isn't pretty reading

 

[chippa1909]

I don't disagree with the sentiment but it will boil down to hard cash at the end of the day and Scotlands spending against GDP isn't pretty reading

Always remember that there are no figures available for Scotland as an independent country.

 

[Hobbit]

Always remember that there are no figures available for Scotland as an independent country.

Hahahahaha - #in denial - hahahahaha... GERS report is total fiction..... hahahahaha

 

[chippa1909]

Hahahahaha - #in denial - hahahahaha... GERS report is total fiction..... hahahahaha

Hobbit, you just post what you want, like the France and Spain veto nonsense.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Always remember that there are no figures available for Scotland as an independent country.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

To be fair there are also 'extremists' on the remain side who also told their fair share of porkie-pies before the referendum and continue to rant and rave against the decision to leave the EU.

I'm no admirer of Farage's politics (he is like Trump in that he isn't a career politician) but I do respect the fact that he isn't afraid to say what he thinks and is prepared to give an answer to a question. Unfortunately politicians nowadays don't do that which is why there is so much ill-feeling towards the political establishment.

As for Scottish Independence, ultimately I cannot see the Westminster Government agreeing to another one anytime soon and certainly not before we have exited the EU. Obviously this is potentially dangerous for the SNP if EU Exit is not as bad as some fear as it could see their support dwindle, particularly if the administration of their devolved responsibilities takes a turn for the worse; or Labour gets their act together and start to become a serious opposition.

Yes - but rabid Remain supporters don;t exactly rant on the way, or use quite the sort of language, that Farage does. He does wind me up, but I can mostly laugh at his rantings, and in the context of an IndyRef2 maybe he does it deliberately.

 

[Val]

Always remember that there are no figures available for Scotland as an independent country.

If there are no figures available then how do the SNP know we can afford it?

 

[SocketRocket]

Yes - but rabid Remain supporters don;t exactly rant on the way, or use quite the sort of language, that Farage does. He does wind me up, but I can mostly laugh at his rantings, and in the context of an IndyRef2 maybe he does it deliberately.

I cant say I have ever heard Farage 'Rant' or 'Rage'

 

[FairwayDodger]

I cant say I have ever heard Farage 'Rant' or 'Rage'

It's Nigel Farage, the brexit guy, the ex-UKIP leader. You know, the ranty one!

 

[Hobbit]

Yes - but rabid Remain supporters don;t exactly rant on the way, or use quite the sort of language, that Farage does. He does wind me up, but I can mostly laugh at his rantings, and in the context of an IndyRef2 maybe he does it deliberately.

So you haven't ranted in recent days? Really? Really, really? I see no difference between your behaviour, along with Delc's, and Farage's, albeit on a different side of the fence.

 

[SocketRocket]

It's Nigel Farage, the brexit guy, the ex-UKIP leader. You know, the ranty one!

That's him but 'Ranty' really?

 

[FairwayDodger]

That's him but 'Ranty' really?

You know, Ranty McRantface

 

[SocketRocket]

You know, Ranty McRantface

Oh yes, Neeko McKrankface.

 

[Fish]

You know, Ranty McRantface

😂😂😂

 

[delc]

To be fair there are also 'extremists' on the remain side who also told their fair share of porkie-pies before the referendum and continue to rant and rave against the decision to leave the EU.

I'm no admirer of Farage's politics (he is like Trump in that he isn't a career politician) but I do respect the fact that he isn't afraid to say what he thinks and is prepared to give an answer to a question. Unfortunately politicians nowadays don't do that which is why there is so much ill-feeling towards the political establishment.

As for Scottish Independence, ultimately I cannot see the Westminster Government agreeing to another one anytime soon and certainly not before we have exited the EU. Obviously this is potentially dangerous for the SNP if EU Exit is not as bad as some fear as it could see their support dwindle, particularly if the administration of their devolved responsibilities takes a turn for the worse; or Labour gets their act together and start to become a serious opposition.

Why is Nigel Farage not a career politician? He is an elected MEP and has stood as a candidate in several UK elections! He also spent a number of years as the UKIP Party leader.