Appeal against speeding fine

[Billysboots]

Thanks Greig. Got it now.

I’ve had another look, and I’ll be brutally honest here as someone who spent twenty years either policing the motorways or mopping up after people had come to a sticky end on them, the views as you approach that gantry are extensive.

Clearly I’m not up there, and you are, but the imagery on Google Earth is only just over a month old, and I find it almost inconceivable that the trees have grown to such an extent that the gantry and the signs on them are still not visible from quite a considerable distance.

I absolutely accept that without a current image I may be entirely wrong, and if so I apologise. But, in the event an envelope lands on the doormat (it still may not come to that), then the advice in my first post on this thread stands. It may be wiser for your daughter to fall on her sword and set out a case as to why she needs her licence, rather than arguing the signage is not visible.

Motorways just aren’t built in such a way that safety features can become that easily obscured.

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Is the standard penalty different in Scotland?

 

[GreiginFife]

Is the standard penalty different in Scotland?

£100 and 3 points in many cases. Some offences, based on severity, can be fine linked to income.

No speed awareness cop-out is available.

 

[Deleted member 35927]

£100 and 3 points in many cases. Some offences, based on severity, can be fine linked to income.

No speed awareness cop-out is available.

Ok same as, save the speed awareness of which I've done 2
tbh everyone I spoke to there said they were harshly done by

 

[GreiginFife]

Ok same as, save the speed awareness of which I've done 2
tbh everyone I spoke to there said they were harshly done by

Everyone always is.

 

[rudebhoy]

Ok same as, save the speed awareness of which I've done 2
tbh everyone I spoke to there said they were harshly done by

When I did a speed awareness course, the guy running it asked everyone to rate themselves out of 10 as a driver.

The average was about 8.5.

He then asked everyone to rate the general public.

The average was around 6.

He then said, so if you are all such great drivers, how come every one of you is here for breaking the law?

 

[AliMc]

Are there instructions somewhere on how to load a photo, I get a message saying it's too large ?

 

[rudebhoy]

Are there instructions somewhere on how to load a photo, I get a message saying it's too large ?

you need to reduce the size. I use a free app called Image Size, does the job well.

 

[AliMc]

you need to reduce the size. I use a free app called Image Size, does the job well.

Ok thanks will have a look at it later on

 

[KenL]

Are there instructions somewhere on how to load a photo, I get a message saying it's too large ?

I take a screenshot of picture, crop as required then post that.

 

[SocketRocket]

Ok same as, save the speed awareness of which I've done 2
tbh everyone I spoke to there said they were harshly done by

People on an awareness course have only been a small amount over the speed limit when clocked, if you're a fair amount over you don't get the option of a course.
I did one when 5 mph over the limit and the majority of people on the course were from the older generation.

 

[SocketRocket]

Had the OP's Daughter received a notice of intended prosecution yet?

 

[AliMc]

Had the OP's Daughter received a notice of intended prosecution yet?

Nothing as of yesterday so that's a week, out the house today hopefully still nothing when we get back

 

[AliMc]

Nothing as of yesterday so that's a week, out the house today hopefully still nothing when we get back

Still nothing today ...

 

[Deleted member 35927]

People on an awareness course have only been a small amount over the speed limit when clocked, if you're a fair amount over you don't get the option of a course.
I did one when 5 mph over the limit and the majority of people on the course were from the older generation.

Yes Id say majority were 50 plus. Mine was a average speed zone ticket as opposed to a fixed camera

 

[AliMc]

Well today was day 14 and still nothing, so does that mean nothings going to happen now ?

 

[KenL]

Well today was day 14 and still nothing, so does that mean nothings going to happen now ?

 

[Billysboots]

Well today was day 14 and still nothing, so does that mean nothings going to happen now ?

A notice of intended prosecution must be served within 14 days of the alleged offence. That doesn’t mean it must be posted within that time, but should arrive with the alleged offender. So I think you can all breathe again.

 

[cliveb]

A notice of intended prosecution must be served within 14 days of the alleged offence. That doesn’t mean it must be posted within that time, but should arrive with the alleged offender. So I think you can all breathe again.

I seem to recall the last such notice that arrived at our house was delivered by Royal Mail. In which case, I can't see how the police can have any confidence that it will arrive on time

Just a thought: if you ignore such a notice and when challenged claim it never arrived, what happens next? The authorities have absolutely no evidence it was delivered.

 

[Billysboots]

Just a thought: if you ignore such a notice and when challenged claim it never arrived, what happens next? The authorities have absolutely no evidence it was delivered.

Good question, and I’m happy to say we had an army of support staff to deal with such matters, so I can’t answer it, although there is a presumption that it will have arrived if sent via 1st class post within the 14 days.

There were occasions during my time where I issued my own NIP’s so I could evidence their service. I either hand delivered or obtained proof of postage/delivery.