Howard Webb,.... above his own station!!!!!?
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jimbob.someroo
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cookelad
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Problem you have here is that the FA need ref's to be infallible, in the same way a ref can't change his mind based on a players say-so, if the FA decide that Howard Webb has made a mistake they can't pin it on him publicly without damaging his ability to take charge of further premier league games and being questioned on every decision made during games!
bladeplayer
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My 2p worth on the Agger & Gerrard incidents
Agger i appreciate you would probably get a free out the field if you get hit just after you hit it , i dont think you are ever getting a pen for that guys sorry
Gerrard sending off , i dont buy this one again i appreciate if you go to ground you risk being sent off , in my opinion IF oxladechambelain (sp) had continued on a straight line after the ball , then yes second yellow , but he didnt he completely went away from the ball and over gerrard .
No Pen .. No Second Yellow for me
Agger i appreciate you would probably get a free out the field if you get hit just after you hit it , i dont think you are ever getting a pen for that guys sorry
Gerrard sending off , i dont buy this one again i appreciate if you go to ground you risk being sent off , in my opinion IF oxladechambelain (sp) had continued on a straight line after the ball , then yes second yellow , but he didnt he completely went away from the ball and over gerrard .
No Pen .. No Second Yellow for me
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Skrtel is a disgrace - should be sent off every match for his wrestling. He brings the game into disrepute - why is he not charged with doing so?
And the fact HW didn't send Skrtel off makes him just as much at fault as all the rest. Mind you - too many exaggerated gestures from HW and many refs these days - all in the guise of 'giving clarity' which would be OK if they weren't so obviously 'showy'. And no-one does showy gestures and a bit of preening here and there quite like Mr Webb.
And the fact HW didn't send Skrtel off makes him just as much at fault as all the rest. Mind you - too many exaggerated gestures from HW and many refs these days - all in the guise of 'giving clarity' which would be OK if they weren't so obviously 'showy'. And no-one does showy gestures and a bit of preening here and there quite like Mr Webb.
Pin-seeker
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Totally agree about Skrtel. Surely between the ref & other officials they should be picking up on it.
Liverbirdie
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Probably the way Gerrard, Rooney and latterly Terry always had more leeway given by refs, mainly due to their England duties, the FA wont sanction Webb as he is their pick for the world cup.
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Someone being called a disgrace for shirt pulling ? Is that really a "disgraceful" action ? Bringing the game into disrepute !!
what utter tosh !
If so then there is a lot of "disgraceful" people in football
SwingsitlikeHogan
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He wrestles - and you know he does. It is disgraceful behaviour - it is not the end of the world and it is not scandalous - but it is law breaking 100% It's not disgraceful in itself - it's doing it week in week out that is.
And yes you are correct - many if not all do it but he is so blatant, judging at the moment quite correctly that no ref will dare send him off. Well someone should call his bluff. And the very fact that the commentators and pundits are forever highlighting him doing it - and he - always he - yes you may feel he is being picked upon - but tough - he brings players into disrepute by doing it and having it highlighted week in week out. If he doesn't want to be picked upon then he should stop.
btw - Liverpool are my EPL team.
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Pin-seeker
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Bryan Robson & Shearer got away with murder aswell.
ColchesterFC
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I thought I'd post this link I was sent earlier by a mate that knows my feelings on Suarez.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFPmt5FHanc
I like Liverpool but I really hate Suarez. I know hate is a strong word but I think he is a good footballer but a truly despicable human being. The thing I most noticed about the video was that on several occasions he made a shocking challenge that could have caused serious injury and then went down as if he'd been on the receiving end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFPmt5FHanc
I like Liverpool but I really hate Suarez. I know hate is a strong word but I think he is a good footballer but a truly despicable human being. The thing I most noticed about the video was that on several occasions he made a shocking challenge that could have caused serious injury and then went down as if he'd been on the receiving end.
Pin-seeker
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Lots of players do it I agree,but come on Phil surely you've got to admit that Skrtel is by far the worst offender. How many penalties have been awarded against him for it?
If refs started giving penalties for it(not just against Skrtel) then it would stop.
No consistency with Refs.
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I agree that Skrtel is awful at contact with oppo players and he will be punished if he doesnt stop ( gives away a penalty etc )
But the issue i have is calling him a "disgrace" and "bringing the game into disrepute" etc - utter ridiculous comments
Pin-seeker
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Yeah fair enough. If the refs don't do anything about it then obviously he'll carry on.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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As was suggested when Skrtel did the neat back flick on his 6yd box that presented Fulham with a tap in - Skrtel's problem was that he was so busy looking for a Fulham player to manhandle he ended up with his back to the player crossing the ball.
Pin-seeker
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He does seem to have sorted him self out since the Ivanovic incident tho Tbf.
PS I'm not a Suarez fan.
bladeplayer
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Just curious .. Do you really know him well enough or even enough about him to say that tho ? what do you know of him apart from football ?
Ive really gotta stop defending this red lot in public
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would also like for anyone to prove "intent"
You could make many compilation videos for lots of players. You could also see one of Suarez being smashed regulary
Suarez is feisty little fecker that at times has gone too far and has been punished for it.
Suarez as a "human being" shouldnt be judged unless people have personally met him - only have to watch the Liverpool show to see that he is a quiet person off the field and hasnt had one single issue off the field
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ColchesterFC
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Just curious .. Do you really know him well enough or even enough about him to say that tho ? what do you know of him apart from football ?
Ive really gotta stop defending this red lot in public
I don't need to know more about him than what he does on a football pitch to be able to judge him. In my view anyone that has twice been banned for biting an opponent, has been shown to dive to try to cheat the ref and opposition and puts in some of the tackles that could end a fellow players' career can be classed as a despicable human being. I don't care if he helps old ladies cross the road or rescues kittens stuck in trees, it doesn't negate the other stuff he does.
ColchesterFC
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Think it's fairly easy to prove intent on the two occasions he bit an opponent. He may be orthodontically enhanced but it's very difficult even with teeth that size to bite someone without meaning to.
