Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Tbh their shouldn't really be any bad drivers about now. Just give a few a go & see what works for you. Enjoy
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Alex1975
Guest
There are really no bad heads, there are some cheap rubbish shafts though!! But no, I shall not be trying off the peg drivers, its a waist of money and time.
richy
Journeyman Pro
:rofl: what a ridiculous comment
You've only just been given that 12 handicap and now you think you're a world beater
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Alex1975
Guest
:rofl: what a ridiculous comment
You've only just been given that 12 handicap and now you think you're a world beater
Don't upset yourself Ricky, I would have said the same two years ago. If you go to a shop and randomly take drivers off the rack you are wasting your time and money. The head of driver one that you try may be spot on for you and the shaft in driver three you try may also be but never shall the two be married unless you custom fit it. That is why you see people on here change their driver every 9 months, they are never happy. Mine has been in the bag for 3 years as it is well fitted to me. Also before you get too finger pointy about my skill level it does say in this post and I do often say how clubs are a very small margin, maybe 2% performance and I also stress that I work far more on my game than I do spend money on equipment.
Buying off the peg drivers is a waste of time and money...... Don't believe the hype....
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richy
Journeyman Pro
Hardly upset, quite amused actually.
Good effort in trying to read my name though Alec :thup:
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Alex1975
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bladeplayer
Money List Winner
Wouldn't for a second doubt your ability Alex but I will say if what you say above is what you really think then the only option to make you happy is CF or you will always be wondering & you wont settle ... besides , its your dosh so you are free to do what you wish
HOWEVER..........
Im in the market for a driver , have tried a few but have settled on RBZ stage 2 , I like the look of it . the feel of it and the ball flight it gives me , I like the way it sits at address , it gives me confidence .. after hitting it , I will be buying it with the stock shaft that's in the demo I tried ..
Im hitting it fairly long & fairly straight , so I don't believe its either a waste of time or money ,
A dearer or more upgraded shaft will not make you a better or straighter driver of a golf ball , ask Tiger woods
Enjoy your purchase & let us know how it goes ,
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Alex1975
Guest
Wouldn't for a second doubt your ability Alex but I will say if what you say above is what you really think then the only option to make you happy is CF or you will always be wondering & you wont settle ... besides , its your dosh so you are free to do what you wish
HOWEVER..........
Im in the market for a driver , have tried a few but have settled on RBZ stage 2 , I like the look of it . the feel of it and the ball flight it gives me , I like the way it sits at address , it gives me confidence .. after hitting it , I will be buying it with the stock shaft that's in the demo I tried ..
Im hitting it fairly long & fairly straight , so I don't believe its either a waste of time or money ,
A dearer or more upgraded shaft will not make you a better or straighter driver of a golf ball , ask Tiger woods
Enjoy your purchase & let us know how it goes ,
And there are millions and millions that would agree with you. I bet you will be awesome with it, its full of technology and will be long and strong. I would however bet that if you did get custom fit you would get a better result than not, I would put money on it. Most of the stuff in my bag is custom fit to one degree or another, some fully and some within the bounds of a set of stock shafts (my woods and hybrids).
The other thing is that golf is my hobby, not just playing it but it as a whole so I can tend to look quite deeply into things.
It has been pointed out to me by someone who knows my swing well that its not an extreme swing and so any upcharge is likely to be minimal and that is good with me, I am after the correct thing not the most expensive thing...
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bladeplayer
Money List Winner
Wouldn't be so sure of the 1st bit ha ...
Exactly mate its your hobby & its your dosh , get what you want and whatever anyone else says or thinks is irrelevant ...
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Think you need to have a word with your self. I know plenty of people that hit "off the peg" drivers very well.
GeneralStore
Challenge Tour Pro
I was custom fit for a driver, nice experience and whomever is fitting you will generally recommend shafts that are in your budget. From my experiences and what I have heard, the upcharge is usually between £100 to £300, depending on whether they charge for the fitting and what type of shaft you settle on.
There are also a few things that are good to know beforehand and that is which brands have shafts that are the real thing vs. a watered down version. That can keep the price down dramatically.
I cant praise Ethan enough on this type of thing, he suggested some potential shafts and a good custom fitter. So would suggest you get his input if you can, not that it will replace the fitting, but you will be better equipped to make decisions. I also now have an excuse and someone to blame every time I slice one OOB.
A final point, its your money and its your passion, 5%/2%/0% whatever, as long as you don't expect it to make you a much better player, do what makes you happy. Good luck
There are also a few things that are good to know beforehand and that is which brands have shafts that are the real thing vs. a watered down version. That can keep the price down dramatically.
I cant praise Ethan enough on this type of thing, he suggested some potential shafts and a good custom fitter. So would suggest you get his input if you can, not that it will replace the fitting, but you will be better equipped to make decisions. I also now have an excuse and someone to blame every time I slice one OOB.
A final point, its your money and its your passion, 5%/2%/0% whatever, as long as you don't expect it to make you a much better player, do what makes you happy. Good luck
Foxholer
Blackballed
This is another time when rather than looking at what PGA/Euro Tour players are using, you should be checking out the LPGA/LET players gear (there's an oo-er missus in there somewher!). The LPGA/LET plyers swing speeds and other swing attributes are much closer to 'normal' club players that the male Pros. the Tour Pros are spraying it becuse there is, again/a ever, a premium on distance in their tournaments.
As the D2 is 3 years old, it could well be worthwhile upgrading - and if you are happy with the D2, then the 913 is likely to be a pretty good fit. A Titleist fitting is likely to wok out significantly cheaper than the likes of Precision and there is quite a range of (genuine) upgrade shafts available.
G10 is even older technology btw, so unless it happens to have a highly desirable shaft, I would discount that.
There's actually an ex 913 (adapter removed) Diamana D+ Stiff on Ebay (ex Json McGiven) for a pretty reasonable price. Not a million miles away from the Tour AD in the D2. You might also be able to get Titleist to pull your current shaft and put it into a 913! Might need to check whether they'd do that though!
Enjoy the experience.
richy
Journeyman Pro
No need to. I think you're wrong and you think off the peg drivers are a waste of time and money. You obviously NEED a top end shaft as you're either such a good player or your swing is so fast that stock shafts are insufficient.
bobmac
Major Champion
Newer doesn't mean better no matter what the manufacturers tell you.
clayton6
Newbie
£279.99 fully fitted for me for a Titleist 913 D3 in 9.5 loft.
Changed head weights and the Diamana D+ whiteboard (which is a standard option). Which is now genuine for the 913 range.
Tried all the exotic shafts and they were useless for me (SS 106)...could not get the right launch at all and all were way to inconsistent. Out of about 10 none came anywhere near the Diamana at all.
Changed head weights and the Diamana D+ whiteboard (which is a standard option). Which is now genuine for the 913 range.
Tried all the exotic shafts and they were useless for me (SS 106)...could not get the right launch at all and all were way to inconsistent. Out of about 10 none came anywhere near the Diamana at all.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
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Alex1975
Guest
You think I need to have a word with myself? A little strong don't you think, have I said something so wrong that I need to have a word with myself? Re read the post please and you will see I have been very candid about the benefits and limitations of custom fitting. This is not just a random set of words I made up today but years of reading and many custom fit sessions. I too know many golfers who could hit any off the peg driver far far better than I could hit the best custom fit driver. That does not make it the BEST fit for them....!!
The post was really to save embarrassment, I do not have ready cash as I am a family man and would hate to book and turn up for a fitting, find gains and then not be able to settle the bill. I was looking for a range that I may need. From chatting in and out of this post the answer is that I will be at the lower end of any up charge as its unlikely my swing requires anything exotic.
I understand the passion for and against custom fitting, I do not understand the aggressiveness in defending it, specially if you can't back it up. Challenge me on exactly what I have said, I will gladly help you understand and would hope to learn something from you.
GeneralStore: Thanks, I agree with everything you have said and it will be a very considered purchase. I like all the facts before going into something like this.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
I don't have a problem with custom fitting at all. And tbh I really can't be arsed "challenging" you on what you've said just for you to start quoting shaft specs
Enjoy your club fitting Tiger:thup:
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Alex1975
Guest
I don't have a problem with custom fitting at all. And tbh I really can't be arsed "challenging" you on what you've said just for you to start quoting shaft specs
Enjoy your club fitting Tiger:thup:
So what is it you do have a problem with and why is it you can't be bothered to explain it to me? Seriously I would like to know please.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Does tend to with Drivers (though there are some aberrations).
I certainly found the G15 'better' than the G10 which was better than the G5, which was disappointing compared to the G2 - though the G2 was something of an epiphany for Ping, so much better than the TISI!
TM 510TP is still a great club, though not particularly forgiving. Not keen on R11, thoug R11S seems fine. Superquad and Superfast were also fine models that have been superceded (pun noted) though not particularly with 'better' models. imo.
Callaway FT5 was arguably little improvement on the FT3, but the FT9/FT Tour were.
This is part of the reason that 3 years seems to me a good amount of time between brand new Driver purchases.
Anybody seen/heard a Callaway C4 recently? The FT3 was certainly an improvement on that!
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