SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
No...and tbh I don't think that in all my years I've even known of one. In current club - nothing - in a previous a couple of lads were talked about...but just suspicions and quite possibly just malicious gossip.
Have you ever played with a known handicap cheat?
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We have a guy at ours who I know submits cards way better than he scores. I know this because quite recently we played a fun format on a Saturday morning - full handicap team event, best 2 from 4, from the white, yellow and red tees in rotation. I marked the card and he returned 24 points off a 7 handicap. I saw on EG the following day he’d submitted a card a full eleven strokes better than he’d played, claiming to have done so from the whites.
Neither me nor the other two in our team had verified his score via the app. It turns out his mate, who played in another group, did it for him and he reciprocated. This despite them having not even played together.
Similar happened the next week and our handicap secretary was informed. I don’t get why anyone would want an artificially low handicap other than either vanity, or wanting to represent the club in matches.
Either way it’s cheating, and he’s been rumbled.
Neither me nor the other two in our team had verified his score via the app. It turns out his mate, who played in another group, did it for him and he reciprocated. This despite them having not even played together.
Similar happened the next week and our handicap secretary was informed. I don’t get why anyone would want an artificially low handicap other than either vanity, or wanting to represent the club in matches.
Either way it’s cheating, and he’s been rumbled.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
There are various degrees of "cheating" with regards to handicap.
eg: Not playing the the last 4 holes to the best of your ability.
Hard one to prove, but I see blokes doing it when they know they won't be in the prizes and turn a mediocre score into a very bad one, knowing it will keep the handicap high.
Some seem to get far more kicks winning £2 in social golf and bragging about who they beat than doing well in club competitions.
eg: Not playing the the last 4 holes to the best of your ability.
Hard one to prove, but I see blokes doing it when they know they won't be in the prizes and turn a mediocre score into a very bad one, knowing it will keep the handicap high.
Some seem to get far more kicks winning £2 in social golf and bragging about who they beat than doing well in club competitions.
Depreston
Club Champion
What’s the most shots you can go up in a year
Asking for a mate
Asking for a mate
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
In my role as the handicap chairman we looked at on chap quite carefully. He had a low enough handicap to get in to prestigious championship events but never scored anywhere near the handicap he had in any of them and he never played in any other comps. He got a fairly large increase in his handicap as a result which precluded him from entering any more.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
5 shots and once you get to 3 the process slows down increases.
AliMc
Well-known member
I played a club 4bbb tie recently, pp and I were both off about 5 at the time, one of our opponents was off 1.1, I didn't know him but one of the guys I regularly play with said he's never a 1 h'cap, admittedly I played really well, was 1 under for the 16 holes played, but it's obvious that he isn't a genuine 1 h'cap and unlikely ever will be but he has achieved that under whs, never seen his name in medals among the regular scratch contenders so I assume he's a gp fair weather player, I think his partner was a bit pissed off with him tbh as be basically gave up half way round
Foxholer
Blackballed
That's always been possible. Remember the 'short game wizard' from the Trilby Tour?
Golf and golf handicaps has/have a knack of reflecting a player's personality quite well at times - both those who 'cheat' and those with 'vanity handicaps'.
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Swango1980
Well-known member
I'll be interested to hear the outcome
Swango1980
Well-known member
A max increase of 5 to Index (from lowest Index to within that year), which can often translate to about 6 shots on the course handicap (based on a typically average Slope).
hovis
Tour Winner
Has he left the forum or booted? Last I heard he was bragging about winning a comp
woofers
Medal Winner
Yes that feature is available on both IG and the England Golf WHS platform, we enabled them last winter when the white tees were removed from play and the yellow and red tees moved forward to winter tee positions. No General Play cards could be submitted although it didn’t stop some members trying !
He’s too busy on the PGA tour to be on the forum
Still lurking. Not sure if he’s still posting. Or even able to.
Swango1980
Well-known member
He might have managed to get on LIV, as one of the hackers no one has ever heard of.
TigerTime
Active member
That is a bit weird
The man himself suggested someone here had emailed his club. In the unlikely event that’s actually true, I suppose it’s always possible his behaviour has been subject to scrutiny. Losing the best part of 13/14 shots in a very short period of time is extreme without some sort of human intervention.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
I would just like to point out that an increase of 5 to one's HI could possibly result in an increase of 6 shots to course or playing handicap.
10 x (132/113) = 12 rounded
15 x (132/113) = 18 rounded
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
I think he is one of them I've never heard of before in the ballot to be Prime Minister.
Crazyface
Tour Winner
My bil used to do this and openly admitted it to me. I stopped playing with him.There are various degrees of "cheating" with regards to handicap.
eg: Not playing the the last 4 holes to the best of your ability.
Hard one to prove, but I see blokes doing it when they know they won't be in the prizes and turn a mediocre score into a very bad one, knowing it will keep the handicap high.
Some seem to get far more kicks winning £2 in social golf and bragging about who they beat than doing well in club competitions.
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