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What about the average 30 year old vs the average 40 year old..?
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It depends on how the club does it - most do it incremental so each year there is a small increase until they hit the highest level , it’s the same when members hit 70 and then they start to get small reductions
It’s membership categories for the time of life and based on a multiple items
phillarrow
Well-known member
Yeah that's why I said maybe? ??
?I still find it hard to believe that it's based on a presumption of spare income to be honest. That just doesn't make any sense to me. ?
PNWokingham
Journeyman Pro
But probably not less than the 40 to 55 or 60 age groups. I have seen a massive upsurge in play at my club and it is driven by the under 40s. Every club is different but that is certainly true at our place
chrisd
Major Champion
Its difficult to assume anything to do with golf. I see the same lads playing quite regularly, as I do retired members, I also know some young, and old, who can only play once a week, due to various reasons which may be time available, fitness, work etc etc. Some members are happy to play only a few times a year as the fees aren't an issue, one of my younger playing mates only manages about 40 rounds a year, another of similar age manages three time that. You pays your money you takes your chance!
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Can only go by our tee bookings and others that have submitted to membership workshops but the age groups playing the most rounds are
65 plus - average 3 times a week
40 - 65 - average 2.5 times a week
30 - 40 average twice a week
18-30 - average 1.5 times a week
the juniors (under 18 ) - during school holidays are around 5 times a week
There is also seasonal changes with many more 40 plus playing evening golf
chrisd
Major Champion
So it's quite likely that the 40 to 65 plus are bringing in much more income to the club with more bar spend, club match contributions, dinners etc if they spend more time at their clubs
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Not necessarily so - and it’s certainly not the case for us , the top 3 spenders behind the bar at our place have been under 40 , playing golf and being at the club doesn’t automatically mean they spend more money behind the bar - the lowest spenders behind the bar are the over 65’s
All this stuff including incremental fees etc has been done after a lot of research and work - it’s not just about giving people cheap golf
williamalex1
Money List Winner
At my club, most older members go in for a tea , coffee or something stronger after their round 3 or 4 times a week.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
The PGA Tour website leaderboard being about 30 minutes out of date with the live action. Usually it is a lot more accurate and up to date
chrisd
Major Champion
3 under 40's may be, it's likely to be the same at mine on an individual basis but that doesnt mean that the overall top spenders are under 40's as a whole, and the reduced membership should be included as part of that calculation. Also, if under 40's spend most in the bar is it safe to assume they can afford to pay more for the golf?
I agree it's not intended to be "giving people cheap golf ", it's about attracting a younger demographic which is a good thing for clubs, if they can retain those members when the fees reach the full amount. But my real point is that it is clearly a discount
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Many people entering their 30s are buying houses, having kids, don't have much disposable income if any. This will be why there are discounts to attract people in their 30s. The cut off does vary by club, I've more often seen it up to 35 for the clubs in my area. My club having it up to 39 was part of the appeal for me, since it benefits me obviously. Although not as much now as it did.
My new fee will be 1390, up from 1255. Last year's full membership was 1450 (now 1525) so looking at it that way, it's not much of a discount anymore.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
It's not. That's just something people up when they're bitter about some getting cheaper rates than them.Yeah that's why I said maybe? ??
I still find it hard to believe that it's based on a presumption of spare income to be honest. That just doesn't make any sense to me. ?
chrisd
Major Champion
Many people entering their 30s are buying houses, having kids, don't have much disposable income if any. This will be why there are discounts to attract people in their 30s. The cut off does vary by club, I've more often seen it up to 35 for the clubs in my area. My club having it up to 39 was part of the appeal for me, since it benefits me obviously. Although not as much now as it did.
My new fee will be 1390, up from 1255. Last year's full membership was 1450 (now 1525) so looking at it that way, it's not much of a discount anymore.
It was no different when I was in my 30' s - I couldn't think of playing golf, and, most clubs had a waiting list and joining fee.
Why should you get a discount at 38 over a 39 year old earning less than you ?
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Because the club wants to attract more members of a certain age bracket. As discussed. Ultimately if I then stay a member for long enough I end up paying the full rate, however the age-related rate got me in there in the first place.
PNWokingham
Journeyman Pro
Many people entering their 30s are buying houses, having kids, don't have much disposable income if any. This will be why there are discounts to attract people in their 30s. The cut off does vary by club, I've more often seen it up to 35 for the clubs in my area. My club having it up to 39 was part of the appeal for me, since it benefits me obviously. Although not as much now as it did.
My new fee will be 1390, up from 1255. Last year's full membership was 1450 (now 1525) so looking at it that way, it's not much of a discount anymore.
And so do older people. You are well onto adulthood and careers by 30, let alone 40, when you could have grandkids. What other areas of life do people entering or approaching middle age get age- related discounts? Council tax, electricity bills, health clubs etc, etc
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Well none of those things are in need of attracting a younger customer base are they?
phillarrow
Well-known member
Golf clubs are businesses. If they didn't need to do this, they wouldn't. The fact that so many do suggests it works. Whatever the rationale, or supposed unfairness, if it makes more golf clubs financially viable in the long run, it's a good thing surely?
BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
Seniors comp this morning. The greens were covered in pitch marks and half the bunkers are full of footprints.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
It's not a pga tour event, so forgivable IMO. Have you tried the Masters site?
