Flag in / flag out debate

[Crow]

Too late with that quip, someone else suggested it already.

Doh!

 

[KenL]

You seem to be going hard on this one ken, has it happened to you?

Don't be silly..

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The simple thing to do is to state that the flag will come out as everyone gets onto the green and if anyone wants it left in they can hit their putt first. Then it can be removed.

Pretty much just what we seem to be doing these days.

 

[Barking_Mad]

I always leave it in and I can't recall a putt where I thought having it out would have helped.

 

[backwoodsman]

Each to their own, I suppose. At our place, most people seem to be leaving it in. Certainly the various folk I play with do so.

 

[jim8flog]

An influencing factor is whether the holes have the thin plastic liners around the top, over the cup proper. Never the case in elite golf, so the soil takes the hit with a lower COR than the plastic strip.

Rulesies - can you have a local rule forbidding flag removal ?

the liners should not be around the top they are required to be 1" below the surface if one is not it an be because someone pulled it up when taking the flag out and from a previous thread

1. The member of the greenstaff who cuts the holes must make sure that the Rules of Golf are observed, especially the requirements that the hole must be 4 1/4 inches (108mm), must be at least 4 inches (101.6mm) deep and that wherever possible the hole-liner must be sunk at least one inch (25mm) below the putting green surface. If a plastic cuff/rim is used, it is considered to be part of the holeliner, so it too must be sunk at least one inch (25mm) below the putting green surface, unless the nature of the soil makes it impracticable to do so.

 

[jim8flog]

An influencing factor is whether the holes have the thin plastic liners around the top, over the cup proper. Never the case in elite golf, so the soil takes the hit with a lower COR than the plastic strip.

Rulesies - can you have a local rule forbidding flag removal ?

There was a temporary allowable rule during covid but the rule has now been removed.

 

[Deleted member 31467]

I don't buy this. Really not sure how an off centre putt has more chance of going in with the flag in. Surely glancing off the flag is going to deflect it whereas no flag the ball has more chance of dropping.
Whatever they think, flag out for me.

 

[Beezerk]

Each to their own, I suppose. At our place, most people seem to be leaving it in. Certainly the various folk I play with do so.

Most of my regular PP’s leave it in, I have found the guys who ask for it out are mostly seniors.
Dons tin hat

 

[Deleted member 31467]

Most of my regular PP’s leave it in, I have found the guys who ask for it out are mostly seniors.
Dons tin hat

I've found that the guys that ask for it out are mostly better players.

 

[Orikoru]

Most of my regular PP’s leave it in, I have found the guys who ask for it out are mostly seniors.
Dons tin hat

I've found that the guys that ask for it out are mostly better players.

I think you're both right actually. Old people and low handicappers have something in common - both stuck in their ways/habits and don't like change.

 

[Deleted member 31467]

I think you're both right actually. Old people and low handicappers have something in common - both stuck in their ways/habits and don't like change.

Sweeping generalisation. The remainder do like change then?

 

[Orikoru]

Sweeping generalisation. The remainder do like change then?

And you saying better players take the flag out wasn't?

 

[Beezerk]

I've found that the guys that ask for it out are mostly better players.

Last week one was off 13 the other 15 iirc

 

[clubchamp98]

I think you're both right actually. Old people and low handicappers have something in common - both stuck in their ways/habits and don't like change.

The only change is you now have a choice.

 

[KenL]

I think you're both right actually. Old people and low handicappers have something in common - both stuck in their ways/habits and don't like change.

How rude.

 

[woofers]

My experience is that most people on the practice putting green leave the flag in, and then ask for the flag on the putting green to be 'out'. Not really logical is it.

 

[Orikoru]

My experience is that most people on the practice putting green leave the flag in, and then ask for the flag on the putting green to be 'out'. Not really logical is it.

Perhaps they need to start making proper flags that have the little tray at the bottom for scooping the ball out that practise green flags have.

 

[rulefan]

Perhaps they need to start making proper flags that have the little tray at the bottom for scooping the ball out that practise green flags have.

Like the ones we had for Covid?

 

[Orikoru]

Like the ones we had for Covid?

No, NOT like those atrocities.