England

[HomerJSimpson]

Club over Country everyday of the week

To a point I agree but I am still a proud Englishman. We get precious little chance to be proud (no St Georges crosses allowed to fly etc) and it is in sport that we normally get a chance for some national pride. Shame the cricket, football and rugby not quite going our way. I'd rather Fulham was back in the PL but I will support England and the players the manager picks

 

[Deleted member 1740]

You just can't help yourself, can you.
Any other afflictions that you regularly mock, or just those connected to speech?
You really do have no class.



Because that's never happened to Rooney or Welbeck, has it?


Slime.

Honestly Slime, do you really believe Welbeck deserved to be near that squad and it goes for few others too after there woeful season last year?

 

[Papas1982]

McClaren proven ?! In what way ? A league cup.

Hodgson - won nothing of note in his career

The reason why the get picked is because they are English and won't rock the boat

Both managers produce England's worst performances since 1980

If the FA only want to look at English then go to Southgate along with Pearce - and then let them bring in their U21 en mass and build from there

firstly, mclarens one fa cup puts him above Pearce and southgate I belive.

Secondly he had a big impact at UTD as a coach.

I was was simply saying that that was the last time England went for a young English coach and it failed. Pearce and southgate have done nithing of any note to warrant the England managers job.

Mclaren has has since shown that he can rebuild his career and has done good work at clubs since.

Did id you see last years u21's and why Pearce is no longer in a job.......

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Homer, see paragraph 6;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17942091

Fulham fan aren't you?

I see I've been called for this by a couple of people; fine, if it offends people that much I'll stop, but the irony of being pulled for it on a forum where my team's name and manager's name are frequently reduced to equally derogatory nicknames isn't lost on me. So I'll be seeing that stop will I?

Fulham fan here as well, that doesn't mean I agreed with other fans calling him that. It's actually a pretty pointless thing to bring up are are we all guilty by association?

 

[Slime]

Ive seen Chelsea called chelski? Are you comparing a that to mocking a speech impediment?

I personally couldn't care about the woy name calling. I just think it's used by some, as a way to make him look less of a manger just because his reign at a certain club wasn't fantastic.

I still think of all the young English managers about none are more qualified than him.

Who would everyone pick out curiosity?

the last time we went for a young English coach with a proven record was McClaren. Ended well that didn't it?

Roy Hodgson.


Slime.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

To a point I agree but I am still a proud Englishman. We get precious little chance to be proud (no St Georges crosses allowed to fly etc) and it is in sport that we normally get a chance for some national pride. Shame the cricket, football and rugby not quite going our way. I'd rather Fulham was back in the PL but I will support England and the players the manager picks

You're entitled to be a proud englishman and maybe if the country was ran properly(that's another thread) then their maybe more.

I'm more proud of my city than my country.

 

[Papas1982]

Honestly Slime, do you really believe Welbeck deserved to be near that squad and it goes for few others too after there woeful season last year?

Can I ask who the few others were?

 

[Slime]

Honestly Slime, do you really believe Welbeck deserved to be near that squad and it goes for few others too after there woeful season last year?

Yes.


Slime.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

United played poorly and under performed but Welbeck does have youth, speed and ability and isn't the future what we're talking about. I think he has potential but doesn't produce it week in and week out which is what makes him (and others) so frustrating. Walcott is another prime example

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I enjoyed catching up on this thread.

It really is remarkable that a person that cares so little about his national side has so,so much to say about said national side.

Astonishing stuff.

A bit like a Proud Scotchman having an opinion on English football i suppose.

 

[Pin-seeker]

And i laughed the other night because England as a football team i have no passion for.

Club over Country everyday of the week

Even funnier that your club won nothing then

 

[Deleted member 15344]

firstly, mclarens one fa cup puts him above Pearce and southgate I belive.

Secondly he had a big impact at UTD as a coach.

I was was simply saying that that was the last time England went for a young English coach and it failed. Pearce and southgate have done nithing of any note to warrant the England managers job.

Mclaren has has since shown that he can rebuild his career and has done good work at clubs since.

Did id you see last years u21's and why Pearce is no longer in a job.......

It's a league cup

But that doesn't mean he is a better manager

Rijkaard , Klinsman , Van Basten , Voller all given national manager jobs without any experience at club level

The under 21's got to the final against Germany and got beat by at team full of full international players ( many at the WC ) now - last summer our Under 21's had a total of 24 players pull out .

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Yes.


Slime.

I take that as an honest opinion but don't agree.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Even funnier that your club won nothing then
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Nah nothing was funnier than Luis scoring the winner!

 

[Rumpokid]

And i laughed the other night because England as a football team i have no passion for.

Club over Country everyday of the week

:thup:

..Wonder if thoughts like these of the supporters of LFC are shared by the players who represent their country?...Poor show.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I take that as an honest opinion but don't agree.

Whilst players and managers who aren't international standard continue to pick by England and the FA then they will never get anywhere.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

..Wonder if thoughts like these of the supporters of LFC are shared by the players who represent their country?...Poor show.

I really do hope so, though when you've got players in the squad that weren't born here it makes you wonder...

 

[Pin-seeker]

Nah nothing was funnier than Luis scoring the winner!

Really????
:rofl:
Thing is England never had it to throw away
Always next season pal.

 

[Papas1982]

It's a league cup

But that doesn't mean he is a better manager

Rijkaard , Klinsman , Van Basten , Voller all given national manager jobs without any experience at club level

The under 21's got to the final against Germany and got beat by at team full of full international players ( many at the WC ) now - last summer our Under 21's had a total of 24 players pull out .

McClaren has managed round Europe and done well, he also coached well before getting jobs as a manager.
pearce has managed and been useless, his last role as England manager ended as a failure. Pull outs or not he failed.

If you wish to compare the names above to Pearce and southgate go ahead. But just because they did well doesn't prove that the two you name will. Will they be passionate yes, will they be tactically astute?

tbf you'd take anyone over Hodgson so I'm not surprised, but I'd rather managers that have proven themselves, however little credence you want to give to cups he still won it. Wasn't he in charge of their European cup run too?

 

[NWJocko]

Whilst players and managers who aren't international standard continue to pick by England and the FA then they will never get anywhere.

What players would you have picked that weren't LP? Which English manager is "International standard"? Hoddle?

Terry and Cole wouldn't have made a massive difference IMO. England are so poor at keeping the ball they rarely looked like creating anything.