England

[HomerJSimpson]

McClaren has won national titles abroad. Hodgson has won league titles abroad and managed other national sides. Pearce was found wanting at U21 level and Southgate has hardly a successfully as a manager. If Hodgson stays, at least for now, represents a degree of stability and gives him a chance to see what senior players call it a day and build and replace for the future. The EC campaign gives him a chance to play younger players, build a youthful side for the finals and give them tournament experience in qualifying.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

McClaren has managed round Europe and done well, he also coached well before getting jobs as a manager.
pearce has managed and been useless, his last role as England manager ended as a failure. Pull outs or not he failed.

If you wish to compare the names above to Pearce and southgate go ahead. But just because they did well doesn't prove that the two you name will. Will they be passionate yes, will they be tactically astute?

tbf you'd take anyone over Hodgson so I'm not surprised, but I'd rather managers that have proven themselves, however little credence you want to give to cups he still won it. Wasn't he in charge of their European cup run too?

Again what exactly has Hodgson won ?

McClaren proved how inept he was when he got the job

Hodgson have proved how inept he is as he continues with the job

Accepting these type of people as manager is half of what is wrong with the England Football team

 

[NWJocko]

Again what exactly has Hodgson won ?

McClaren proved how inept he was when he got the job

Hodgson have proved how inept he is as he continues with the job

Accepting these type of people as manager is half of what is wrong with the England Football team

What has Rodgers won?

Yet you bandy him around as he's some sort of managerial wizard!

 

[Dodger]

Again what exactly has Hodgson won ?

McClaren proved how inept he was when he got the job

Hodgson have proved how inept he is as he continues with the job

Accepting these type of people as manager is half of what is wrong with the England Football team

Only one answer for it and it'll be right up your strasse.......Sir Alex.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

McClaren has won national titles abroad. Hodgson has won league titles abroad and managed other national sides. Pearce was found wanting at U21 level and Southgate has hardly a successfully as a manager. If Hodgson stays, at least for now, represents a degree of stability and gives him a chance to see what senior players call it a day and build and replace for the future. The EC campaign gives him a chance to play younger players, build a youthful side for the finals and give them tournament experience in qualifying.

Is that the same stability after the last EC when Hodgson was suppose to change things and build a youthful side for the finals and give them tournament experience ?

Stuart Pearce for the under 21's took them too a final and semi final in the Euros U21's - if that is found wanting then what is success

 

[Slime]

What has Rodgers won?

Yet you bandy him around as he's some sort of managerial wizard!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: .............................................. :thup:


Slime.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Hodgson won five (or is it six) titles with Malmo. League success with FC Copenhagen. Never let facts get in the way then

 

[chrisd]

And i laughed the other night because England as a football team i have no passion for.

Club over Country everyday of the week

Probably the saddest post I've read on the forum!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What has Rodgers won?

Yet you bandy him around as he's some sort of managerial wizard!

Rodgers hasn't won anything yet but has already had a better prem season in his short managerial period than either McClaren or Hodgson and took a team from 8th to 2nd in the prem ( never been done before in the CL era )

 

[Imurg]

What has Rodgers won?

Yet you bandy him around as he's some sort of managerial wizard!

Damn you Jocko!!!
I'd just looked that up so I could post it!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Hodgson won five (or is it six) titles with Malmo. League success with FC Copenhagen. Never let facts get in the way then

Which are the equivalent of winning in Scotland - shall we have Lennon as manager then ?

 

[Papas1982]

Again what exactly has Hodgson won ?

McClaren proved how inept he was when he got the job

Hodgson have proved how inept he is as he continues with the job


Accepting these type of people as manager is half of what is wrong with the England Football team

After the italy game. Many people pundits, fans and players accepted we played well. Misfurtune cock up aside and we would still be in with a chance in this one.

You slate hodgson and mclaren and yet advocate two people who has the sum of zero credentils as manager.

I am not saying that either mclaren or hodgson are saviours but both are clearly better than the two you mention.

Re Mclaren proving he was useless as his time with england was poor. Capello didn't set the world on fire, is he a useless manaer too?

 

[NWJocko]

Rodgers hasn't won anything yet but has already had a better prem season in his short managerial period than either McClaren or Hodgson and took a team from 8th to 2nd in the prem ( never been done before in the CL era )

But going by you're criteria, Hodgson and McLaren has won more then? Yes?

I've nothing against Rodgers and quite like him fwiw, you're double standards just amuse me

 

[Birchy]

Again what exactly has Hodgson won ?

McClaren proved how inept he was when he got the job

Hodgson have proved how inept he is as he continues with the job

Accepting these type of people as manager is half of what is wrong with the England Football team

Come on Phil we had Capello who has won stuff everywhere but he couldnt get a tune out of our mob. We have spent a bomb on top managers and its still hasnt paid off.

After watching this world cup i firmly believe its all down the the mentality. Our players are beat before they get there imo.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Rodgers hasn't won anything yet but has already had a better prem season in his short managerial period than either McClaren or Hodgson and took a team from 8th to 2nd in the prem ( never been done before in the CL era )

Rogers has won???

Here is Hodgson's record
Swedish League: 1976, 1979 (Halmstad); 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 (Malmo).

Swedish Cup: 1985-86, 1988-89 (Malmo).

Danish League: 2000-01 (FC Copenhagen).

Danish Cup: 2000-01 (FC Copenhagen).

UEFA Cup: runner-up 1996-97 (Inter Milan).

Europa League: runner-up 2009-10 (Fulham)

Give it a rest Phil. You are trying (again) to twist stuff to fit. Hodgson took a club with no funds (unlike Liverpool) to a Euro final and technically we were the best British club in Europe that season

 

[Papas1982]

Rodgers hasn't won anything yet but has already had a better prem season in his short managerial period than either McClaren or Hodgson and took a team from 8th to 2nd in the prem ( never been done before in the CL era )

Totally irrelevant, however impressive it may seem. You want us to name managers with credentials. Yet BR has still won as much as them. I'm not sure "took a team from 8th to 2nd in the prem ( never been done before in the CL era )" is really gonna turn heads on a cv. 2nd place is still just the first loser.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What players would you have picked that weren't LP? Which English manager is "International standard"? Hoddle?

Terry and Cole wouldn't have made a massive difference IMO. England are so poor at keeping the ball they rarely looked like creating anything.

Why does the manager have to be "English" - best manager England have had since Bobby is Sven - out of the last 5 English England managers 3 were the worst in history

Welbeck is not International standard , neither is lambert , nor Milner , nor Jägelkia , nor Johnson ,

 

[Pin-seeker]

Rodgers hasn't won anything yet but has already had a better prem season in his short managerial period than either McClaren or Hodgson and took a team from 8th to 2nd in the prem ( never been done before in the CL era )

So he finished 2nd & trophy less with one of the biggest teams in the world. Amazing.
Finishing 8th was underachieving :thup:
If you're happy that's all that matters.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Totally irrelevant, however impressive it may seem. You want us to name managers with credentials. Yet BR has still won as much as them. I'm not sure "took a team from 8th to 2nd in the prem ( never been done before in the CL era )" is really gonna turn heads on a cv. 2nd place is still just the first loser.

Irrelevance will be ignored. 35 pages prove that!

 

[Pin-seeker]

Will Liverpool be playing the "were happy just to make top 4" card again this season?
Or are you expecting to kick on?