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England

Why does the manager have to be "English" - best manager England have had since Bobby is Sven - out of the last 5 English England managers 3 were the worst in history

Welbeck is not International standard , neither is lambert , nor Milner , nor Jägelkia , nor Johnson ,

I agree they're not top level players, I asked who you would have picked in their place?
 
But going by you're criteria, Hodgson and McLaren has won more then? Yes?

I've nothing against Rodgers and quite like him fwiw, you're double standards just amuse me :)


Rodgers isn't England manager nor is he being touted as one - he is our manager who is moving the club in the right direction despite his relative inexperience and still makes mistakes that need to looked at.

Hodgson has been managing for decades now and his highlights include a couple of finals - taking prem champions and turning them into relegation candidates and keep teams in the prem.
 
Sven, Capello, Venables, Robson etc etc - they all won Jack with England!
Only Ramsey has won anything...

Regardless of who the Manager is they are marked by the quality of players available to them - Roy's choices haven't exactly been wide have they...

And I look forward to seeing you in the dugout when Roy goes - you obviously know far more about an England team that you don't support than the rest of humanity put together.
I expect at least a Euro success and a WC Final spot next time........
 
Funny in it?

The people who don't support the national team, have the most to say about them. What sickens me is that anyone would rather claim a bunch of foreign imports are more important to them, especially given that the ones who spend the most money buys the league. I personally can't comprehend why people wouldn't support their country at all, let alone put country before club
 
Rogers has won???

Here is Hodgson's record
Swedish League: 1976, 1979 (Halmstad); 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 (Malmo).

Swedish Cup: 1985-86, 1988-89 (Malmo).

Danish League: 2000-01 (FC Copenhagen).

Danish Cup: 2000-01 (FC Copenhagen).

UEFA Cup: runner-up 1996-97 (Inter Milan).

Europa League: runner-up 2009-10 (Fulham)

Give it a rest Phil. You are trying (again) to twist stuff to fit. Hodgson took a club with no funds (unlike Liverpool) to a Euro final and technically we were the best British club in Europe that season

He also took a Prem Title winning team and watch the get relegated

For a manager who has been in the game for decades ( 30 plus years ) he has kept clubs in the prem , won minor titles and got to a final - he has also managed at big clubs and failed.

Being a Fulham fan he is perfect for you - would expect England fans to have a lot higher expectations.
 
Rogers has won???

Here is Hodgson's record

UEFA Cup: runner-up 1996-97 (Inter Milan).

Europa League: runner-up 2009-10 (Fulham)


Give it a rest Phil. You are trying (again) to twist stuff to fit. Hodgson took a club with no funds (unlike Liverpool) to a Euro final and technically we were the best British club in Europe that season


Coming 2nd doesn't count though it does add to the he's a failure point:smirk:
 
Totally irrelevant, however impressive it may seem. You want us to name managers with credentials. Yet BR has still won as much as them. I'm not sure "took a team from 8th to 2nd in the prem ( never been done before in the CL era )" is really gonna turn heads on a cv. 2nd place is still just the first loser.


I don't want BR to be England manager - so yes he is irrelevant

I haven't asked you to name anyone
 
He also took a Prem Title winning team and watch the get relegated

For a manager who has been in the game for decades ( 30 plus years ) he has kept clubs in the prem , won minor titles and got to a final - he has also managed at big clubs and failed.

Being a Fulham fan he is perfect for you - would expect England fans to have a lot higher expectations.

Is that not the problem though.

With the players you have why on earth would you have "higher expectations"?

You seem to be an England fan, regardless of what you claim!
 
Irrelevance will be ignored. 35 pages prove that!


Homer I believe you have stated on a number occasions that you wish not to get involved in little tit for tat digs on the forum - yet you keep posting messages doing that exact thing.
 
Funny in it?

The people who don't support the national team, have the most to say about them. What sickens me is that anyone would rather claim a bunch of foreign imports are more important to them, especially given that the ones who spend the most money buys the league. I personally can't comprehend why people wouldn't support their country at all, let alone put country before club

Its only an opinion Chris, what about the foreign import who played in both of Englands defeats?
 
He also took a Prem Title winning team and watch the get relegated

For a manager who has been in the game for decades ( 30 plus years ) he has kept clubs in the prem , won minor titles and got to a final - he has also managed at big clubs and failed.

Being a Fulham fan he is perfect for you - would expect England fans to have a lot higher expectations.

Phil

For pitys sake stop trying to twist it again. A lot of managers have failure as well as success but you can't deny he has won significant titles, managed at the highest level at club and national level and has tasted success. I WONT comment on his time at Liverpool as this will drag the thread down even further.

Can you not accept that others don't share your views and accept these without having to question and try and counter argue every point?
 
Read post #1055 He has won stuff. More than Rogers, and all the others you name. Facts Phil. Facts

He is a fact for you Homer - under Hodgson - England have had their worst performance in a finals , first time they exit after just two games.

Hodgson has won minor titles in minor countries on the football map - those are facts homer
 
Poor form having a dig at Brendan Rodgers.

As a football fan Hodgson and HIS team have failed. Fact
 
He is a fact for you Homer - under Hodgson - England have had their worst performance in a finals , first time they exit after just two games.

Hodgson has won minor titles in minor countries on the football map - those are facts homer

First time since 1958 I think you'll find that they haven't qualified from the group stage. Fact. He has still won more than Rogers and taken Inter to European Finals. As I said, you continue to counter argue. I'm out as its getting boring and you aren't prepared to accept mine or any other view...AGAIN.
 
Phil

For pitys sake stop trying to twist it again. A lot of managers have failure as well as success but you can't deny he has won significant titles, managed at the highest level at club and national level and has tasted success. I WONT comment on his time at Liverpool as this will drag the thread down even further.

Can you not accept that others don't share your views and accept these without having to question and try and counter argue every point?

Significant titles ?! Like what ?

Tasted success ?!

What about his time at Blackburn ?
 
Its only an opinion Chris, what about the foreign import who played in both of Englands defeats?

There are qualification rules across the world as to who plays for which country so whoever you're referring to is no different to Costa playing for Spain etc and perfectly legitimate

Not supporting your country is, to me, disgraceful but that us " it's only an opinion" !!
 
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