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[Deleted member 15344]

STERLING was poor last night and was in awe of SAUREZ,same as GERRARD as if the had got the call from RODGERS to protect SAUREZ and his doggy leg,not one ENGLAND player can say the worked their tripe off for the team,NOT ONE.

Do you have a problem with the caps lock ?

 

[richy]

Gerrard hasn't played his best football nor his worst

Cahill poor marking cost England against Italy plus the poor play up front

Against Urugauy he missed a header and a tackle but Jägelkia positioning cost two goals

So whilst Gerrard wasn't great the 4 behind him were worse throughout both games

The only things both Baines and Johnson contributed each was a cross

Only three players can prob hold their head up a little - Henderson , Sterling and Sturridge

Gerrard has played worse than in those 2 games? I'm shocked

I agree that others haven't played well in certain games but Gerrard has been truly awful in both. He's supposed to be our captain but was totally underwhelming.

For Suarez's first Johnson should've got tighter to Cavani and attempted to stop the cross but agree that Jags shouldn't of been caught ball watching and cut out the cross.

As for the second Gerrard totally mis-timed his just which caught the centre backs out the Suarez gambled. Don't forget the back 4 were a lot less experienced than the likes of Gerrard. He really needs to stand down after this and hopefully he won't be selected Tuesday.

You have really defended him as much as I'd hoped

 

[richy]

I'd add Sturridge and sterling didn't really do anything last night

 

[Doon frae Troon]

The Dutch don't play direct football !!

In your opinion... but they do manage to score lots of goals against tippy tappy teams.

Perhaps they out-bore them and sleep walk the ball into the net.

Anyway......... I thought I read somewhere that, unlike me, you don't support England. If so, you do seem to have an AWFUL lot to say about them.

 

[Rumpokid]

So England break new records,and make history.First time been knocked out of World Cup after 2 games,as i said before, too many Liverpool players in start up, still crying after prem title slipping away, and that is only the start of the problems.Tactics, ego's inabillity to gel together,the list is endless..Everyone bleats on about a new era with the young players,on this form,no chance, how many times has this been said..Never mind,they will all soon be on there hols in Dubai or elsewhere,doing what they are really good at, spending there hard earned cash..All time low reached by this shower,from the top down!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Gerrard has played worse than in those 2 games? I'm shocked

I agree that others haven't played well in certain games but Gerrard has been truly awful in both. He's supposed to be our captain but was totally underwhelming.

For Suarez's first Johnson should've got tighter to Cavani and attempted to stop the cross but agree that Jags shouldn't of been caught ball watching and cut out the cross.

As for the second Gerrard totally mis-timed his just which caught the centre backs out the Suarez gambled. Don't forget the back 4 were a lot less experienced than the likes of Gerrard. He really needs to stand down after this and hopefully he won't be selected Tuesday.

You have really defended him as much as I'd hoped

He doesn't "need" to do anything and he will be selected on Tuesday.

You think he has been awful - I think others have been worse

Either way the defence has cost England a place in the K/O and both CB's are very culpable for all the goals and now England are out. You can point fingers at players or can look at the manager and the poor tactics he employed.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

In your opinion... but they do manage to score lots of goals against tippy tappy teams.

Perhaps they out-bore them and sleep walk the ball into the net.

They had one game against Spain where everything went right - not so long ago they were being beaten by Spain for the World Cup itself

Spain won three tournaments in a row - that's three - never been done before.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So England break new records,and make history.First time been knocked out of World Cup after 2 games,as i said before, too many Liverpool players in start up, still crying after prem title slipping away, and that is only the start of the problems.Tactics, ego's inabillity to gel together,the list is endless..Everyone bleats on about a new era with the young players,on this form,no chance, how many times has this been said..Never mind,they will all soon be on there hols in Dubai or elsewhere,doing what they are really good at, spending there hard earned cash..All time low reached by this shower,from the top down!

Three of those Liverpool,players you slate where England's best players over the two games - which team should have provided more players then instead of Liverpool ? Spurs

The dribble you have posted is laughable.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Gerrard has lacked inspiration as a captain and not led England with any of the passion he showed for Liverpool. He hasn't played well either and his ball retention and passing yesterday was poor. There have been others that haven't performed as well but you expect and need your captain to lead by example

 

[Rumpokid]

He doesn't "need" to do anything and he will be selected on Tuesday.

You think he has been awful - I think others have been worse

Either way the defence has cost England a place in the K/O and both CB's are very culpable for all the goals and now England are out. You can point fingers at players or can look at the manager and the poor tactics he employed.

Sorry,GERRARD, culperable for 2nd goal last night,was a great flick on at pace,and SUAREZ ,like when playing at LIVERPOOL gambled correctly..Game over

 

[richy]

He doesn't "need" to do anything and he will be selected on Tuesday.

You think he has been awful - I think others have been worse

Either way the defence has cost England a place in the K/O and both CB's are very culpable for all the goals and now England are out. You can point fingers at players or can look at the manager and the poor tactics he employed.

You're right he doesn't need to stand down but he should.

I wonder if you'd be defending him as much if he didn't play for Liverpool. Of course you'd never answer that truthfully

You think others have been worse but the majority of the country, ex pros, football exports and most of the media think he was the worst

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Gerrard has lacked inspiration as a captain and not led England with any of the passion he showed for Liverpool. He hasn't played well either and his ball retention and passing yesterday was poor. There have been others that haven't performed as well but you expect and need your captain to lead by example

Rooney lost the ball more times than Gerrard did yesterday.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sorry,GERRARD, culperable for 2nd goal last night,was a great flick on at pace,and SUAREZ ,like when playing at LIVERPOOL gambled correctly..Game over

Gerrard missed a header 40 yards from goal !! Where was the CB's

 

[JCW]

Three of those Liverpool,players you slate where England's best players over the two games - which team should have provided more players then instead of Liverpool ? Spurs

The dribble you have posted is laughable.

Do you hang around just waiting to post , bottom line is England is coming home , been better if they played all the young players and lost , last game now so give the young lads a go

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Rooney lost the ball more times than Gerrard did yesterday.

But he scored. What was Gerrards total contribution? Poor leadership, mistake that cost a goal. Others were bad too but as I said you need and expect your captain to lead by example. Or can't you accept critiscism of a Liverpool player?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You're right he doesn't need to stand down but he should.

I wonder if you'd be defending him as much if he didn't play for Liverpool. Of course you'd never answer that truthfully

You think others have been worse but the majority of the country, ex pros, football exports and most of the media think he was the worst

Majority of the country ? Done a quick straw poll ? Just watched Henry and Seedorf and Ferdinand slate the CB's for the goal

The hypocritical nature of people on here is laughable - the moral high ground adopted by people demanding England players were supported now turn the knives on the captain after missing a header 40 yards from goal and a tackle 40 yards from goal.

Laughable truely laughable.

 

[Rumpokid]

Three of those Liverpool,players you slate where England's best players over the two games - which team should have provided more players then instead of Liverpool ? Spurs

The dribble you have posted is laughable.

The drivel (not dribble),i quote is just what you do not want to hear.Rooney scores,near misses, sets one up,but counts for nothing in your eyes.
Spurs,ha ha,guessed wrong again,in an earlier post referring to Jagielka,let you know where my support goes,and it isn't Everton.
However,i am surrounded by plastic scousers around her, so i have heard all what you say before...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But he scored. What was Gerrards total contribution? Poor leadership, mistake that cost a goal. Others were bad too but as I said you need and expect your captain to lead by example. Or can't you accept critiscism of a Liverpool player?

So again someone else ignoring the very crucial part the cb's played in the goals conceded

Gerrard was 40 yards from goal when he missed that header 40 yards !

 

[User20205]

So England break new records,and make history.First time been knocked out of World Cup after 2 games,as i said before, too many Liverpool players in start up, still crying after prem title slipping away, and that is only the start of the problems.Tactics, ego's inabillity to gel together,the list is endless..Everyone bleats on about a new era with the young players,on this form,no chance, how many times has this been said..Never mind,they will all soon be on there hols in Dubai or elsewhere,doing what they are really good at, spending there hard earned cash..All time low reached by this shower,from the top down!

Gerrard has lacked inspiration as a captain and not led England with any of the passion he showed for Liverpool. He hasn't played well either and his ball retention and passing yesterday was poor. There have been others that haven't performed as well but you expect and need your captain to lead by example

This is exactly what I mean, finger pointing cliched nonsense. If not Gerrard then who, if not Rooney then who. They are our best players, they came up short, as the previous incarnations have done. All this Hand wringing, finger pointing nonsense is a waste of time.
If we had no expectations going into the tournement, in a really tough group, then why are we surprised ?

Arm chair, plastic championship managers :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Three of those Liverpool,players you slate where England's best players over the two games - which team should have provided more players then instead of Liverpool ? Spurs

The dribble you have posted is laughable.

The drivel (not dribble),i quote is just what you do not want to hear.Rooney scores,near misses, sets one up,but counts for nothing in your eyes.
Spurs,ha ha,guessed wrong again,in an earlier post referring to Jagielka,let you know where my support goes,and it isn't Everton.
However,i am surrounded by plastic scousers around her, so i have heard all what you say before...

Ah Sheff UTD -

Yes the same team that still blames Liverpool for them getting relegated from the prem - bitterness is clear