Captainron
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We played it as part of the last GM Forum trip we organised to Islay and Kintyre in Sept/Oct last year. Lovely track and I certainly wouldn’t want it ripped up by sledges.
Dunaverty Golf Club - Hypocrisy or are they correct?
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HowlingGale
Head Pro
My first thought was that it would be an absolutely stonking place to sledge. All those big hills.
However, I'd never knowingly sledge on a golf course out of respect.
I have ski'd on a golf course though ?.
However, I'd never knowingly sledge on a golf course out of respect.
I have ski'd on a golf course though ?.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
Perhaps they should tee their balls up on the piste....see how those saying ti's ok would like golfers on their slopes taking divots and the like
davidy233
Tour Rookie
It's not just sledging - Forfar Golf Club and Caird Park golf course in Dundee have both had people ice skating on frozen greens
Robster59
Tour Rookie
People have the right to roam but they don't have the right to tear up the course. I was walking on our course on Sunday and there were quite a few people sledging on the course. The gates to the course have been closed but the car park hasn't so at least people can drive on it. Most of the people were sledging down a hill on our 18th but others had moved over to other parts of the course. The worst was that somebody had dumped a broken sled in our 18th burn. I mean, why? Even if you don't want to take it home, put it near the front of the club so it can be disposed of.
It's very hard to police. Nobody is at the club at the weekend and if you challenge anyone you will either get abuse, or you can't stop me, or it's allowed, or whatever.
At the moment the ground is hard so damage I believe is limited and looking at the greens, there are some footprints in the snow but nothing major.
The snow will go soon enough, people will go away and the course will recover soon enough.
It's very hard to police. Nobody is at the club at the weekend and if you challenge anyone you will either get abuse, or you can't stop me, or it's allowed, or whatever.
At the moment the ground is hard so damage I believe is limited and looking at the greens, there are some footprints in the snow but nothing major.
The snow will go soon enough, people will go away and the course will recover soon enough.
sunshine
Well-known member
I thought this thread was going to be about Tim Paine
For what it's worth, I think sledging is a fundamental part of golf with your mates, but I wouldn't ever do it in a comp or with someone I didn't know well.
For what it's worth, I think sledging is a fundamental part of golf with your mates, but I wouldn't ever do it in a comp or with someone I didn't know well.
toyboy54
Challenge Tour Pro
Sorry to disillusion you but have you compared the width of the runners on a sled as against the width of the treads on trollies/buggies? They're probably about an inch max versus 4/6/8/10inches so will do a lot more damage (even with a kids weight on it,never mind an adult+kid) just due to downward force per square inch over narrower area!
Don't know about you but I don't fancy narrow grooves gouged into the fairways-would you be o.k. with this considering the fees you probably pay?
(besides we can't take trolleys/buggies out when it's soaking wet-due to potential of damage to course)
JImbo
greenone
Active member
I don't know how frozen the ground is in that area, but here after a week plus of it never getting above freezing you could put an elephant in the sledge and it isn't going to leave ruts. It may take the grass off the top but that will soon regrow.
I'm with the club on this, if it were just a bit of sledging on a fairway fine but usually its other stuff as well.
This is the first year we have had any snow at the Kings in Inverness since it opened. the 11th greens is in a bit of a state where peope have launched off it to go down the hill. The green had been fenced of as the was work underway on it and the front bunkers before the snow came . The slegder had pulled the fence down so the could use the green to launch off. went past it this afternoon on my walk with the Dog. not sure whats been done but the green looks it a terrible state now most of the snow has melted. at the bottom of the hill is a pond, all the red stakes are gone and have been thrown in or on the frozen pond along with the two sets of tee markers and the flag for the 10th green. also most of the people who had been going up there had used tthe SNH car park and then someone had broken the new fence down so they could get in. a few weeks ago i watched a guy with his two kid s go round the pond by the 18th green chucking all the red stakes in the pond when i asked him why he had just stood by and let his two kids do that he just turned round and said whats it got to do with you they are not hurting anyone!!
This is the first year we have had any snow at the Kings in Inverness since it opened. the 11th greens is in a bit of a state where peope have launched off it to go down the hill. The green had been fenced of as the was work underway on it and the front bunkers before the snow came . The slegder had pulled the fence down so the could use the green to launch off. went past it this afternoon on my walk with the Dog. not sure whats been done but the green looks it a terrible state now most of the snow has melted. at the bottom of the hill is a pond, all the red stakes are gone and have been thrown in or on the frozen pond along with the two sets of tee markers and the flag for the 10th green. also most of the people who had been going up there had used tthe SNH car park and then someone had broken the new fence down so they could get in. a few weeks ago i watched a guy with his two kid s go round the pond by the 18th green chucking all the red stakes in the pond when i asked him why he had just stood by and let his two kids do that he just turned round and said whats it got to do with you they are not hurting anyone!!
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Club spend time and money on maintaining a golf course... for Joe Public to damage for fun. Understand why they'd take umbrage.
Golfnut1957
Newbie
You are so wrong.
I hate when it snows, it brings sledgers, skiers and canoeists out and they all head to our course and cardiac hill, or the 17.
So, the sledgers slide down off the 18th tee to launch off the 17th greenside bunker, shredding the edges and landing on the 17th green. They do this way beyond the point where there is any meaningful snow left, gouging grass, bunker and green. Down the slope approaching 17 you will find sledgers, skiers, people on bags and anything else that will slide, and yes I once saw a bloke in a canoe causing mayhem as he proceeded to practically wipe out everyone else.
It's not just 17, they are all over, and everywhere they go they cause damage and leave detritus.
Of course, by summer the damage is all gone, thanks to mother nature and the hard work of the green staff, but I've never understood why the club aren't more pro-active in discouraging them.
LincolnShep
Head Pro
Aren't you ignoring the relative lengths? I pair of runners 1" x 30" is 60 sq. inches. A pair of wheels each with a contact patch of 6" x 4" is 48 sq. inches, add on another 2" x 4" for the front wheel and you're at 56 sq. inches.
I'm not condoning sledging, just pointing out that the relative pressures would appear to be fairly similar.
greenone
Active member
The contact patch of your wheels isn't going to be anywhere close to 6x4 more like 6x1/2. The contact patch of a car pneumatic tyre is generally the size of a credit card. The contact patch of a solid wheel is much smaller as you don't have the deformation of the tyre increasing the contact patch.
toyboy54
Challenge Tour Pro
LS...you may well be correct with the maths but I disagree that the potential projection for physical damage to the fairways/greens from kids and parents-the majority of who really don't care about the damage being done to area(and take umbrage if this is pointed out to them-after all,they're not paying for the upkeep and repairs-are they?) is going to be the same from a sled as a trolley-totally different spread of weight/downward pressure over different ground area surely-I only got as far as 'O' level maths many years ago.
Look,how about a quick solution re your maths versus my logic-just shoot them?
Jimbo(sorry MODS meant to be humorous)
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
A motorcycle tyre contact patch is about the size of the palm of your hand, a car will be considerably larger.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
And does all your bodyweight bear down through your trolley the same way as it does on a sledge? And do your tyres roll or slide? I suspect the relative pressures & stresses are rather different.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
A trolley will, generally, roll over the turf barely causing and damage except when the ground is very wet.
A sledge, literally, skids across, maintaining a scraping action until it stops.
You can't compare the two.
A sledge, literally, skids across, maintaining a scraping action until it stops.
You can't compare the two.
tugglesf239
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This thread is a pedants dream ?
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