Dress Code - Who is responsible?

[Slab]

there was 33 of us. The issue came to light first thing in the morning when the pro mentioned it to one of the players.

I then took it upon myself to try and get it sorted before i teed off - i have no idea what would have happened if we'd just finished the morning round and then expected to eat.. hadnt even crossed my mind!

33 Jeez! Maybe not a bad thing as it sounds like you missed out on a carvery menu of: Cup-a-soup, Rustlers micro-burger with crinkle cut McCain and an arctic roll!

Hope the sarnies were nice

 

[davemc1]

These clubs have a cheek, they'll be asking you to wear a jacket and tie for bangers and mash next!


oh, ang on a minute... :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 21258]

Firstly let me say - i have no issues with whatever dress code a golf course wishes to employ. Its their club they can make their rules.

However - Who is responsible for making you aware of those Rules For a whole society day not a normal 4 ball?
(bear in mind this club does NOT have a website and does not communicate via email)

I think it should go like :-

The person who takes responsibility for the group - is the organiser and should inform the players and should know all the booking conditions(dress code, handicap requirements etc).

What should the Organiser do and expect from club - I would expect a letter or email be sent when booking is confirmed enclosing matters such as dress codes. However to be blunt(if I am allowed to be) as an organiser going to a older style golf club, you should have been asking in detail before booking, to ensure it met your don't change at lunchtime requirement.

I suppose a lesson learnt but both parties sound like partly to blame(them for not sending out dress code requirements and you for not asking), and really could not have made for a pleasant day for you.

 

[patricks148]

I think there are still a few clubs around that would expect you to wear Jacket and Tie at Lunch.

they would more likely be the old fashioned traditional Members clubs and prob a clue might also be if they didn't have lady members.

some of the comments one these threads always surprise me that many would not visit a a top course just because of some dress code issue (not the OP, this is different). How difficult is it to wear a pair of shoes/ Trousers to visit a top course??

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I have problems with clubs banning trainers in the bar (you're a sports club!), to the extent I haven't been back to play that course, I can't imagine how outraged I'd be at demanding wearing a stupid tie and jacket..

Well there will be a hell of a lot of clubs and indeed mainly all the best clubs in the GB that you shouldn't visit then.

 

[Orikoru]

I think there are still a few clubs around that would expect you to wear Jacket and Tie at Lunch.

they would more likely be the old fashioned traditional Members clubs and prob a clue might also be if they didn't have lady members.

some of the comments one these threads always surprise me that many would not visit a a top course just because of some dress code issue (not the OP, this is different). How difficult is it to wear a pair of shoes/ Trousers to visit a top course??

Shoes and trousers are fine obviously. Jacket and ties though, just gives off this image of some pompous up-themselves club that you wouldn't to spend time in I think.

 

[Slab]

I think there are still a few clubs around that would expect you to wear Jacket and Tie at Lunch.

they would more likely be the old fashioned traditional Members clubs and prob a clue might also be if they didn't have lady members.

some of the comments one these threads always surprise me that many would not visit a a top course just because of some dress code issue (not the OP, this is different). How difficult is it to wear a pair of shoes/ Trousers to visit a top course??

Never been faced with the decision yet so not sure whether i'd go/not go, but I do know that if it was collar & tie I'd want to find out that it was the restaurant that was 'top' too not just the course

Bit off topic but a lunchtime carvery doesn't outwardly suggest its worthy of a jacket/collar/tie dealy, more of a pub chain menu that

 

[guest100718]

as long as I can change in the car park them im cool....

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Shoes and trousers are fine obviously. Jacket and ties though, just gives off this image of some pompous up-themselves club that you wouldn't to spend time in I think.

Matter of opinion I guess but to me it's worth making the effort to play courses like Rye, RSG and Swinley Forest.

 

[IanM]

He basically said if you've been to all these other clubs you should know they all have the same rule....

Woking/St Georges Hill - Jacket over golf attire
West Hill/Worplesdon/Hanley - no change required

These things happen Sam.. swapped a few messages with Big Steve and George this week about it. Blame all aimed at Club, not the organiser! In the days I ran a Soc, everywhere was J&T after, the odd one wanted mid round change of clothes.

Trouble is, some of these places are still wealthy (and arrogant) enough to not be overly bothered about Customer Service and good manners. It's only when the cash starts to dry up they have a change of attitude.

Growing up in Surrey in the 80s, I remember when you approached some clubs to be a member or to visit, they just told you to F.O. Now I get 5 emails a week begging me to go and play!

 

[MendieGK]

I think there are still a few clubs around that would expect you to wear Jacket and Tie at Lunch.

they would more likely be the old fashioned traditional Members clubs and prob a clue might also be if they didn't have lady members.

some of the comments one these threads always surprise me that many would not visit a a top course just because of some dress code issue (not the OP, this is different). How difficult is it to wear a pair of shoes/ Trousers to visit a top course??

my issue with the dress code of jacket and tie at lunch (with golf PM too). is purely that you dont have time to change and eat and the whole thing is just illogical.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Shoes and trousers are fine obviously. Jacket and ties though, just gives off this image of some pompous up-themselves club that you wouldn't to spend time in I think.

With the list of clubs that require jacket and tie being a great as they are I have no problem at all putting on a jacket for an hour

 

[IanM]

Matter of opinion I guess but to me it's worth making the effort to play courses like Rye, RSG and Swinley Forest.

Agree completely. If it's your club you impose what the heck you like. I'm happy to dress a requested if I chose to go somewhere.

But (as many do) have the good manners (and sense) to tell people about your "customs" -

Assuming they "should know" is either stupidity or arrogance! (might be both!!)

 

[MendieGK]

With the list of clubs that require jacket and tie being a great as they are I have no problem at all putting on a jacket for an hour

so do you shower after the morning round and then put the suit on, then put your golf gear back on? all of this in approx and hour (need to eat your 3 course lunch too)....

New Zealand is not in the same league as other courses in the area.

 

[Orikoru]

Matter of opinion I guess but to me it's worth making the effort to play courses like Rye, RSG and Swinley Forest.

Could still play the courses of course - I just mean I'd probably forgo the clubhouse rather than bring a jacket and tie along just to sit inside and have a bite to eat.

 

[MendieGK]

Could still play the courses of course - I just mean I'd probably forgo the clubhouse rather than bring a jacket and tie along just to sit inside and have a bite to eat.

Thats what i did @ the berkshire. kept numbers below the 23 max before having to use the dining room.

 

[Deleted member 21258]

Could still play the courses of course - I just mean I'd probably forgo the clubhouse rather than bring a jacket and tie along just to sit inside and have a bite to eat.

I agree with D4s on the extra effort is worth it and I would just comply with their requirements.

For instance to miss out on going into the clubhouse at RSG and missing out on lunch, just due to not willing to put on a jacket/tie, it was very special in there, the history, the feelings, the cards on the wall and so on etc. Well worth it, l loved the forum day out there in February and hope to go back one day. Forum days are great.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Could still play the courses of course - I just mean I'd probably forgo the clubhouse rather than bring a jacket and tie along just to sit inside and have a bite to eat.

Yes that's always an option but its nice to enjoy the full experience.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Responsibility lies 50/50 in this case imo.

For NZ not to allow you to order chips is astonishing behaviour from such an established club.

Wait until we turn up next week :rofl:

 

[MendieGK]

I agree with D4s on the extra effort is worth it and I would just comply with their requirements.

For instance to miss out on going into the clubhouse at RSG and missing out on lunch, just due to not willing to put on a jacket/tie, it was very special in there, the history, the feelings, the cards on the wall and so on etc. Well worth it, l loved the forum day out there in February and hope to go back one day. Forum days are great.

Perfectly happy dressing up, AFTER golf (as is the case at RSG), but changing in between is absurd.

However, as previously mentioned. The club is at liberty to make their own rules and i have no issues with that