robinthehood
Hacker
I found that video a bit to technical, but that's his thing, backing up what he says with numbers.
Crossfield v Whoever
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I found that video a bit to technical, but that's his thing, backing up what he says with numbers.
davidy233
Tour Rookie
Simple fact is likeable beats moany most of the time.
Sats
Challenge Tour Pro
I've stopped subscribing to all but a few of the golf youtubers. I still follow companies/PGA etc but I can't be bothered with the majority of Youtubers. There is a reason why they weren't on the telly before and all social media has done is brought more trite to the table.
Paige and about 95% of the Ladies is on Instagram and it's more about them wearing a bikini than playing golf (not saying it's not appealing!)
I think my biggest reason for ditching the YouTubers are:
I forget the rest they seem to blend into one collage of banality.
Rant over.
Paige and about 95% of the Ladies is on Instagram and it's more about them wearing a bikini than playing golf (not saying it's not appealing!)
I think my biggest reason for ditching the YouTubers are:
- Rick Sheils - Could you possibly be anymore crap at content production - 70º wedge or illegal driver videos and click bait - plus his manc accent grates on me .
- Me&MyGolf - Scripted. All about signing up to the website (save your money and get lessons/clubs/anything else instead.)
- Peter Finch - Nice bloke, decent swing - boring to the max and I'm not sure what he actually post videos about except what clubs he wants and how he won't get into the open.
- Crossfield - Annoying. Did a good job about challenging traditional concepts - Cannot take criticism whatsoever and is childish about it.
- Top Bloke - Would never get bored of kicking this bloke in the face.
I forget the rest they seem to blend into one collage of banality.
Rant over.
Hendy
Tour Rookie
Funny I just got the feeling I need a new putter right now.
Hendy
Tour Rookie
Check out 'golf sidekick' good entertainment value and few good tips to be hand on the way.
Agree with the above. To main stream to boring and a painful ten minute watch
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Think Crossfield should stick to the on course stuff - playing lessons for the viewers if you like and his product reviews which he at least backs up with some data. I think there is room in the market for him to create a nice niche doing just that and if he can mellow his tone and find a way to engage with the viewer better he could really make that corner of golfing youtube his own and probably increase subscribers and viewers
OneEyeRon
Hacker
Sats
Challenge Tour Pro
Honestly I haven't really watched his stuff.larmen
Head Pro
Robinson does too much. He has about 1 1/2 good videos a week in him but publishes a new one every day. I think he is spreading himself too thin.
I enjoyed him when he came into the scene around the youtube golf day last year, but I got off him during the lockdown. Probably means I am back watching his stuff in 6 months time ;-)
I enjoyed him when he came into the scene around the youtube golf day last year, but I got off him during the lockdown. Probably means I am back watching his stuff in 6 months time ;-)
Crow
Crow Person
James Robinson is another one who thinks like most vloggers (probably more so than most) that quick camera changes to a close up of his face for an aside then out again are clever and make the vlog snappy.
Nothing annoys me more and I quickly move on to something else.
Steve Johnston is another who insists on doing this which is a shame as otherwise I like his stuff but I can't watch to the end.
Nothing annoys me more and I quickly move on to something else.
Steve Johnston is another who insists on doing this which is a shame as otherwise I like his stuff but I can't watch to the end.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I make a point of not watching any video who's thumbnail has a dirty great red arrow pointing to the theme of the video that is so obviously placed in the picture that Stevie Wonder would see it....
Hence James Robinson Matt Fryer and GolfMates don't get much airtime from me.
Hence James Robinson Matt Fryer and GolfMates don't get much airtime from me.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Top bloke I'd never get tired of reversing over his face. Waste of space. Shiels is now forced to use click bait to get the views to earn the cash. Finch I think has simply lost his way. Historically he has done some good content but now he seems unsure where to go or what to do and so "The Quest! is what he falls back to. I think he'll come back better. Me and My Golf are adidas/TM mouthpieces and won't do anything to upset their paymasters or take any risks. Very dull and repeated content. Crossfield I still think is relevant when he doesn't spit the dummy out. He produces some good content and backs it with data. When he goes off on one then unwatchable
timd77
Assistant Pro
It’s the thumbnails that do me. It’s either him with his hand over his mouth acting shocked, or, erm it’s him with his hand over his mouth acting shocked. Found his vlogs very boring too.
I don’t mind Matt fryer for the odd instruction vid if I’ve got a spare 10 mins. He seems a nice enough chap.
larmen
Head Pro
Did you email him about it? ;-)
(Check his twitter for reference)
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
My only issue with Rick Shiels is that he repeats the headline phrase/s so many times in such short vids, whether its the wedge or the starter set or whatever video i've seen
Maybe its how long filming takes he just doesn't realise or how he preempts the edit points, but he'll repeat "70 degree" or "£xxx" price so often until it just grates and its all you can hear
Maybe its how long filming takes he just doesn't realise or how he preempts the edit points, but he'll repeat "70 degree" or "£xxx" price so often until it just grates and its all you can hear
timd77
Assistant Pro
Just looked, can’t see what you’re referring to?
Patster1969
Assistant Pro
I don't really watch a lot of the instruction videos tbh (there's so many). I mostly watch the fun reviews (as I want to see something fun sometimes) or the course vlogs that Shiels/Finch do, as I enjoy seeing courses that I haven't played or am unlikely to play. It's also refreshing to see how often PGA pros struggle with scoring/consistency, as it makes me realise that no matter how good you are (or how good you think a coaching professional should be), no one ever 'gets' this stupid, annoying but wonderful game.
Have felt a bit sorry for Finch on occasion watching his quest for the open videos, as he looks genuinely crushed on some of these - it just shows the gap between a coaching pro and a touring pro
Have felt a bit sorry for Finch on occasion watching his quest for the open videos, as he looks genuinely crushed on some of these - it just shows the gap between a coaching pro and a touring pro
Dan2501
Tour Winner
It's not to make the vlog snappy, in-fact it's the opposite. Videos over 10 minutes gain more ad-revenue so Youtubers end up stretching out their content to make it last at least that amount of time. So when they're not really saying anything interesting or just filling time they make it look more "interesting" by constantly flicking between camera angles to keep your brain engaged. TV Production is much the same. If you watch any trash reality TV shows it's full of this. Listening to the Kardashian's talk for half an hour would be utterly mind-numbing, so to make the inane nonsense they talk seem interesting they add in a ton of camera angle changes, zooming in and out, switching to them talking straight to camera. The camera never stays still on anything long enough for you to realise there's nothing actually happening.
i*windows
Newbie
Just watch Alex Evan's "CHRONICLES OF A NOT YET CHAMPION GOLFER ", it's just a damn good golf channel, fun, informative and doesnt take itself seriously
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