Slime
Tour Winner
Is a professional foul, in football, cheating?
Cheating .............................. or not cheating, that is the question?
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Tongo
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Slime
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I just wanted to gauge the general feeling of this forum.
I'm off to the pub soon ................................ it's all about timing!
Slime.
Oh, I voted yes.
I'm off to the pub soon ................................ it's all about timing!
Slime.
Oh, I voted yes.
Tongo
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Pin-seeker
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Deliberately breaking the rules to gain an advantage,obviously a form of cheating IMO.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Cheating. Fouling to gain an advantage. Can't see how it can be anything else
richy
Journeyman Pro
Someone can
The Poll is flawed, there should be an option for "There is no such thing as a professional foul"
Tiger man
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Boooom! Lighting the fuse and leaving a poll. Ingenious.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
I havent voted and won't but using the rules to your advantage is common in all sports, is giving away a deliberate penalty cheating? No it's not because there is an end result for it, penalty and card. If it stops the opponent scoring then it's all fair game and it's in the rules.
Remember Suarez in the WC in South Africa, deliberate hand ball on the line, sent off and the opponent missed the penalty and Uruguay eventually went through on penalties IIRC. He took one for the team and it worked.
Remember Suarez in the WC in South Africa, deliberate hand ball on the line, sent off and the opponent missed the penalty and Uruguay eventually went through on penalties IIRC. He took one for the team and it worked.
D
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So he cheated the opposition out of a goal.
The honest answer is, sometimes by cheating you win, I've no issue with it, just call it as it is😃
D
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That is spot on and using the common sense reasoning and understanding it not always black and white and what definition is in a dictionary :thup:
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
But you are not using the rules,you're breaking them & are usually penalised.
I agree that you're taking one for the team,but you're knowingly breaking the rules to get an advantage.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
This
NWJocko
Tour Winner
But isn't that where the term "professional" foul comes from, I.e. deliberate foul to stop a breakaway/goal etc rather than just a "foul" from a mistimed tackle?
I'd say there's a difference between a professional foul and diving for example, one is looking to con the ref (cheating if you like) and one is just bending/breaking the laws of the game?
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Who come up with the term Professional foul?
How's about professional dive? Players are getting very good at it so why not.
If we put the word professional infront of it is it then an acceptable form of cheating?
NWJocko
Tour Winner
Just a widely used term to define a deliberate foul.
Breaking the laws of the game is different to diving IMO.
You carry on with your crusade though :thup:
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
To cheat is to deliberately break the rules.
There may be some form of penalty for doing so but that doesn't stop it being cheating.
You can commit a foul without it being deliberate, but what Suarez did, or chopping down someone to prevent them scoring is a deliberate action, the outcome of which breaks the rules.
Therefore it is cheating.
As is diving, using a leather wedge in golf or doping in cycling.
There may be some form of penalty for doing so but that doesn't stop it being cheating.
You can commit a foul without it being deliberate, but what Suarez did, or chopping down someone to prevent them scoring is a deliberate action, the outcome of which breaks the rules.
Therefore it is cheating.
As is diving, using a leather wedge in golf or doping in cycling.
C
c1973
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Very good point that.
