BLM protests/ Riots.

[PhilTheFragger]

No sorry to disappoint ?

 

[Dando]

Only leaving this because I see the mods are mounting their horses.

The thought of fragger mounting anything is truly terrifying

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm sure it is. I'm also sure it's terrifying to see a line of horses charging at you. And I'm sure it's not a lot of fun for the horses either. I still haven't seen what "significant disorder" provoked that charge. Maybe there was something to make that a proportionate response, maybe not.

I don't want to get into an argument with someone who clearly has an axe to grind. So if you can't drop it and move on at least stop getting personal about it.

I don’t believe it was a charge in the video where the rider fell off - the horse bolted when a child’s bike was thrown at it spooking it , unless I’m mistaken the police don’t ever do a horse charge at crowds ?

Edit - to clarify after speaking to someone that who is also part of the mounted police there - the bike was two seperate incidents. The horse that bolted was hit by a missle - either a bottle or something along those lines

Then during another incident a bike was thrown towards the horses

 

[Deleted member 15344]

All society can do is make the same opportunities in life available to everyone. It's then up to the individual to make the best of those opportunities. The important question to ask ourselves is 'are we making these opportunities available to everyone'. if the answer is 'yes' then we can do no more, if 'no' then we need to change.

I have read the post a number of times and I’m struggling to see the link between it and the current issue with racism and treating people differently based on their colour

Yes equal opportunities should always be there but what’s the connection to that and how the every man on the street or people in power act towards people of a different colour ?

 

[SocketRocket]

No, you posed a question..



I was wondering what you thought the answer to that question is.

Sorry, I thought a little more and have expanded my answer

 

[SocketRocket]

I have read the post a number of times and I’m struggling to see the link between it and the current issue with racism and treating people differently based on their colour

Yes equal opportunities should always be there but what’s the connection to that and how the every man on the street or people in power act towards people of a different colour ?

Please read my further post. Although I cannot see what's difficult to understand from the post you quoted.

Maybe you can answer the question.

 

[PJ87]

No sorry to disappoint ?

Nevermind!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Please read my further post. Although I cannot see what's difficult to understand from the post you quoted.

Maybe you can answer the question.

Read it and it seems to be focusing on education and family break ups in regards Black people but again I can’t see the link to racism from others

Some very successful black people have been subjected to racism , high profile sports stars , music , film etc

Racism exists in all walks of life regardless of education , wealth , family life , upbringing

I see equal opportunities as a small part of how we treat people the same

 

[Crumplezone]

The police officer fell off her horse after she rode head first into a set of traffic lights. She did not fall off as a direct result of anything being thrown at the police or horses.

 

[SocketRocket]

The police officer fell off her horse after she rode head first into a set of traffic lights. She did not fall off as a direct result of anything being thrown at the police or horses.

The horse bolted, Police horses dont bolt for nothing.

 

[Dando]

The police officer fell off her horse after she rode head first into a set of traffic lights. She did not fall off as a direct result of anything being thrown at the police or horses.

You should do stand up!

 

[SocketRocket]

Read it and it seems to be focusing on education and family break ups in regards Black people but again I can’t see the link to racism from others

Some very successful black people have been subjected to racism , high profile sports stars , music , film etc

Racism exists in all walks of life regardless of education , wealth , family life , upbringing

I see equal opportunities as a small part of how we treat people the same

I thought the subject was about Black Lives Mattering, that's what my post is aimed at. You may think it's all about racism, I have tried to look at why there is unrest in certain communities and what causes it, you are looking for a finger pointing excersise.

 

[SaintHacker]

The police officer fell off her horse after she rode head first into a set of traffic lights. She did not fall off as a direct result of anything being thrown at the police or horses.

Out of all the toss that has been been posted on this forum over the last few weeks, that is probably the winner

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I thought the subject was about Black Lives Mattering, that's what my post is aimed at. You may think it's all about racism, I have tried to look at why there is unrest in certain communities and what causes it, you are looking for a finger pointing excersise.

I’m not sure where I’m pointing fingers at anyone ?

The subject is about the current protests and to combat the racism and persecution that black people on a daily basis in all walks of life. Hence why I was confused by your post - it wasn’t finger pointing , it was asking for clarification.

 

[Crumplezone]

The horse bolted, Police horses dont bolt for nothing.

Some outlets (IE Mail and Sun) have posted photos of someone rolling a bike towards a completely different horse and police officer. There is no evidence to show what caused the horse to ride into the traffic light or whether it bolted before or after the rider came off.

I don't agree with this violent protest, but it's important to get the story right when the outlets that openly support racism are trying to do down anti racists by posting fabricated versions of what happened.

 

[User20205]

I don’t believe it was a charge in the video where the rider fell off - the horse bolted when a child’s bike was thrown at it spooking it , unless I’m mistaken the police don’t ever do a horse charge at crowds ?

Tashyboy would say otherwise!

 

[The Autumn Wind]

The police officer fell off her horse after she rode head first into a set of traffic lights. She did not fall off as a direct result of anything being thrown at the police or horses.

Ive just gone back and read your other 4 posts you made since joining. That’s quite an eye opening set of 5 posts.

I‘m guessing you aren’t a Dale Carnegie fan.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Sorry, am a bit confused, is racism still bad or are we more upset about a horse riding a bicycle into a crowd? Allegedly.

 

[SaintHacker]

Some outlets (IE Mail and Sun) have posted photos of someone rolling a bike towards a completely different horse and police officer. There is no evidence to show what caused the horse to ride into the traffic light or whether it bolted before or after the rider came off.

I don't agree with this violent protest, but it's important to get the story right when the outlets that openly support racism are trying to do down anti racists by posting fabricated versions of what happened.

Oh well forgive me then, didn't realise it was in the Fail, sorry Mail, and the Sun. I obviously dreamt about the video footage clearly showing people seting off fireworks, throwing bottles etc etc as it wasn't in either of those fine upstanding bastions of truth and justice.
Police horses don't bolt for nothing, end of...

 

[Blue in Munich]

I am reluctant to weigh in on that since it appears there was a stooshie last night and someone banned for suggesting the police shouldn't be charging horses into groups of protesters. Suffice to say it looks like the response to protests about police brutality has been more police brutality. The world over.

Having both worked with & been policed by mounted officers, and seen their training when growing up, I can assure you that was not a charge. No mounted officer of my acquaintance would want to charge into a crowd, if for no other reason than the love of their working partner, because that is what that relationship is, a partnership.

One mounted officer correctly deployed can do the work of 10 to 20 foot duty officers in public order situations, that is just one reason that we still have them.