SwingsitlikeHogan
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B Liar - was always such a tired, old 'isn't that clever' (never was) way of referring to Blair.
Blair - He's got alot to answer for......
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B Liar - was always such a tired, old 'isn't that clever' (never was) way of referring to Blair.
Offensive wars take time to organise, and they had to go through the motions of making it seem legal and legitimate (weapons of mass destruction about to rain down on our heads in 15 minutes, etc)!
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I think it was 40mins, And it is reasonable to deduce that a medium range tactical ballistic missile could be mobilised and fired from Iraq and hit a UK base in Cyprus in something like 40mins.
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There were UK bases in both Saudi and Kuwait that were always under threat from Saddam
The reasons and legitimacy will always be debated but the end was the right one - a nurderous dictator was removed from power , tried and hanged for his crimes and thf country has the chance to build its future - it needs to take that chance
The reasons and legitimacy will always be debated but the end was the right one - a nurderous dictator was removed from power , tried and hanged for his crimes and thf country has the chance to build its future - it needs to take that chance
With ISIS running amok over a large part of it???
Foxholer
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That's actually a question that supports DelC's argument!
Afghanistan was a direct and immediate reply. Iraq was simply Bush (Jnr)'s 'idea' that it would be a good thing to do!
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As I said they have a chance to build a future - they need to take it and the Iraq Army etc are tackling ISIS - the countries Army protecting its own country as opposed to killing it's own country.
Foxholer
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Er. the Iraqi Army is still killing its own country, but on behalf of, and for the protection of, 'all' of its citizens. Allegedly.
Whatever you thought of Saddam Hussain, he was the legitimate leader of a UN country and kept a fairly disparate population together. Since the Coalition forces moved out, Iraq has degenerated into a civil war between the various ethnic and religious groups who live there! Presidents Bush and Bliar seemed to believe that once Saddam was gone, all would be peace and light! Sadly not!
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Agree that balance is desirable and, therefore, if New Labour inherited and were stuck with PFI it is also reasonable to claim that they inherited the peace process in Northern Ireland that John Major had already committed to.
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Yes he kept the country together by killing people who didn't agree with him !
Iraq was in civil war when he was in power also between the various religious groups - but his way of dealing with them - just kill them.
Val
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It doesn't support but your post backs me up, Iraq wasn't a respond to 9/11.
Don't forget our rulers (Kings and Queens) used to do similar things in this county only a few hundred year ago! And we had plenty of civil wars: Catholics v Protestants, Royalists v Parliamentarians, etc, etc.
Val
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Large part of where? I was under the impression ISIS are terrorising Syria not Iraq
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Im sorry but how is that relevant to Saddam Hussain ?!
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They are also in some northern Areas of Iraq but mainly in Syria
Val
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The power of absolute rulers! Fortunately we have a system called democracy in this country which allows us to boot out unpopular leaders and ruling parties every few years!
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So you think that's a good thing ? Getting rid of rulers with absolute power and replacing that with democracy ?
Yes, but in our case it was our choice, not imposed on us by an invading foreign army! I think we might have been upset if Germany had won WW2 and imposed the Nazi political system on us!
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