Am I missing something... HCP question?

[DAVEYBOY]

Now I don't know I've got this wrong so maybe you can help...

I have completed 2 HCP cards so far and they would be based on a 18 HCP

1. 88 for 36 points with 1 blob. 37 with blob turned into a double bogey?

2. 91 today but I haven't bothered with points yet, I had 2 birdies a few pars but 3 yes 3 blobs. I wasn't going to bother with it as we have gale force winds at the moment in the Midlands and to get round with the score I did was a massive achievement but wasnt going to keep the score as a pro would have struggled today it was ridiculous... Stand bags flying over and flags bent double.

Now my question, am I right in believing that for any score over a double bogey it gets turned into a double bogey therefore basing my scores off 18 I would get a point for the blobs? if this is the case what's the point in making the crucial putt or chip for a double bogey when you get a point anyway? As for my round today if the 3 blobs are turned into 1 pointers its likely to be around 36-38 points.

I may have got this totally wrong so please put me in the right direction.

I've also had 6 birdies in my last 4 rounds so I'm doing something right :clap: although I have missed some easy putts for more

 

[Heidi]

Yep, ur missing the word net
Net double bogey
A blobs a blob!

 

[Sweep]

No. A blob is a blob. You are getting confused with when you rack up a big score on one hole in a medal, they reduce that score to one more than you would have needed to score a point in a stableford for handicap calculation purposes.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Yep, ur missing the word net
Net double bogey
A blobs a blob!

Ok so if I'm off 18 and get a 7 on a par 4 is that classed as a blob? (Non scoring) is this then turned into a 6 for scoring purposes or only for HCP adjustments?

 

[DAVEYBOY]

When I say I got a birdie its a 3 on a par 4 not a net birdie. My 6 birdies are real ones lol

 

[garyinderry]

i would wait till the weather is more settled before doing the cards. playing in hurricane conditions isnt really reflective of your normal scoring.

 

[Heidi]

No, if u play off 18, u get a stroke a hole. Most u can take without blobbing is 6

 

[DAVEYBOY]

No, if u play off 18, u get a stroke a hole. Most u can take without blobbing is 6

So when would a blob be turned into a double bogey? HCP adjustments?

Would my blob on my 88 round score 0 or be turned into a double bogey meaning I get a point when working out my initial HCP?

 

[Heidi]

So when would a blob be turned into a double bogey? HCP adjustments?

Would my blob on my 88 round score 0 or be turned into a double bogey meaning I get a point when working out my initial HCP?

Nothing turns into a double bogey
NET!!! Double bogey!

Ok, u are tootling along, playing some nice golf, then the wheels come off on a par 4, a hcap of 18 gives a stroke a hole, a net bogey is taking a 6, a net double bogey is taking a 7. So, u have to score 8 or more for a hcap adjustment

Capiche???

 

[DAVEYBOY]

i would wait till the weather is more settled before doing the cards. playing in hurricane conditions isnt really reflective of your normal scoring.

It was crazy today mate I thought my actual bag was going to take off, aiming drives into OB to allow for the gales wasn't a nice feeling but I think my score was respectable for the conditions. I just hope I can replicate the my game I took out there today on a calm day as I feel I could have got a PB today even putts and chips where affected.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Nothing turns into a double bogey
NET!!! Double bogey!

Ok, u are tootling along, playing some nice golf, then the wheels come off on a par 4, a hcap of 18 gives a stroke a hole, a net bogey is taking a 6, a net double bogey is taking a 7. So, u have to score 8 or more for a hcap adjustment

Capiche???

Ha ha I'm waiting for that penny to drop :whoo:

Now net means my birdies are classed as eagles yes? And my pars are birdies and so on. Based on 18HCP

Now when I hand in my cards for my first HCP what do they do with the holes I have had a mare on? Over a double bogey based on scratch?

18 isn't my HCP its just the number I'm using to see how I'm scoring.

 

[Heidi]

Dinny worry, just put the 3 cards in. Then play lots of medals, and have fun

 

[Colin L]

Davey,
Would it help if you thought of a net double bogey as the lowest net score at a hole that would earn you no points. You are off 18 so if you take a 6 at a par 4 you have a net 5 and so will earn a point. If you take a 7, your net score is 6, earning no points. 7 is the lowest you can take that scores no points, so your net double bogey is 7. Any score over 7 or a nil return will be reduced only for handicapping purposes to 7.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Dinny worry, just put the 3 cards in. Then play lots of medals, and have fun

I'm not a tard honest lol

I'm reading and being told so many conflicting stories I'm confused.

I know how to score off any HCP its just this anything over a double bogey is classed as one part I'm not getting.

No worries :thup:

 

[DAVEYBOY]

This is the paragraph that is confusing me...


To adjust your handicap you need to use your adjusted golf score for the round.
Under the CONGU golf handicap scoring system, the maximum score you can submit for any hole is a double bogey (+2).
This means:
On a par 3, if you score 6 or over, your adjusted score would be 5.
On a par 4, if you score 7 or over, your adjusted score would be 6.
On a par 5, if you score 8 or over, your adjusted score would be 7

Site... sandwedged.com

 

[Heidi]

This is the paragraph that is confusing me...


To adjust your handicap you need to use your adjusted golf score for the round.
Under the CONGU golf handicap scoring system, the maximum score you can submit for any hole is a double bogey (+2).
This means:
On a par 3, if you score 6 or over, your adjusted score would be 5.
On a par 4, if you score 7 or over, your adjusted score would be 6.
On a par 5, if you score 8 or over, your adjusted score would be 7

Site... sandwedged.com

thats for a scratch golfer you eejit!
You've got yourself all confused with adding in an extra stroke for an 18 hcap player!

 

[Five&One]

This is the paragraph that is confusing me...


To adjust your handicap you need to use your adjusted golf score for the round.
Under the CONGU golf handicap scoring system, the maximum score you can submit for any hole is a double bogey (+2).
This means:
On a par 3, if you score 6 or over, your adjusted score would be 5.
On a par 4, if you score 7 or over, your adjusted score would be 6.
On a par 5, if you score 8 or over, your adjusted score would be 7

Site... sandwedged.com

Dave. You are confusing the issue by counting Stableford points and net scores on individual holes. Take those out of the equation for now and think ONLY about your gross score in an 18 hole round.

if you play off 18 on a course with an SSS of 72, gross bogeying every hole and taking a gross 90 means you played to your handicap and you won't be adjusted.

lets say there are 4 par 5 holes on your course and you bogeyed all the other holes apart from the par 5 holes where you had 2 x 8s and 2x9s. That would be a gross of 100. Here's the thing though. Congu doesn't give you more than a double bogey so your par 5 scores are rounded down to a 7 in each case, giving you an adjusted gross of 94. This means you scored 4 shots above your handicap and you would be adjusted by 0.1 to 18.1.(still playing off 18)

still with me ?

lets say you have a great day on the par 5 holes and you have real pars at all of them. You bogey all the other holes. That is a gross of 86. Fours shots below your handicap. You would be cut 1.2 for that score 4x0.3 and you new handicap would be 16.8 (now playing off 17)

Congu allows you to have a nightmare at a hole without beig overly penalised. If you are taking a 7 on a par 5 you are as well, for the purposes of handicap, taking a 10 because CONGU doesn't care. Of course it still matters that you record a 10 in a stroke play medal because the double bogey maximum doesn't apply and isn't relevant to anything except your CONGU handicap. The fact that you ALSO don't score in stableford at plus 2 or above is purely coincidental.

hope that helps and forgive me if it sounded patronising and I was telling you stuff you knew already.

 

[rosecott]

I think the OP, in his mind, is confusing the process of adjusting scores when allocating a handicap and the process of stableford adjustment of scores in qualifying competitions.

 

[Colin L]

Congu doesn't give you more than a double bogey so your par 5 scores are rounded down to a 7 in each case, giving you an adjusted gross of 94.

still with me ?

Still with you? I'm afraid I'm not. If he were submitting a card for an initial handicap, then scores over 7 at a par 5 would be reduced to double bogey 7. Once the player has a handicap that gives him a stroke at that hole, gross scores over 8 would be reduced to a net double bogey 8. That's the bit that I think Davey is finding difficult. A net double bogey is the lowest score which would result in the player getting no stableford points. Had he scored a gross 7, with his stroke he would be gaining a point.

 

[DCB]

I think the OP, in his mind, is confusing the process of adjusting scores when allocating a handicap and the process of stableford adjustment of scores in qualifying competitions.

That's what I thought.