Your thoughts on our CSS please

[Foxholer]

Would scoring 36 points off the Yellow (or even Ladies) tees be as good as scoring 36 points off the Whites? That's the equivalent within a course to the SSS versus Par across every course.

In order to standardise handicaps across golf courses, Congu has rated each course each course - which is the SSS.

On tough courses, this rating (SSS) will be greater than easier courses. Yours is deemed easier than standard - by 2 shots. I know someone who played off 4 who struggled to get lower because he too had to shoot 38 points. Depending on the course and the type of golfer, high or low SSS courses can be flattering or unflattering to different levels of golfers.

CSS is SSS 'statistically adjusted for conditions on the day'. So if more than expected score well, the CSS can reduce - by 1; if fewer than expected, then CSS can go up by up to 3, then the comp is deemed too tough and becomes Reduction Only.

@Jeez. That's the way I've managed to get the concept across to those 'otherwise intelligent' guys who can't understand why every Par 72 isn't the same! ell, that and the habit of some tour to change Par! You are correct btw. Common sense and Golf are very often strangers!

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Personally I don't like CSS but everyone here knows that so I won't go into it again.

At our place the whites are SSS=Par=70 and CSS is nearly always 70 as well. If it does move it usually goes up 1 rather than down.

Off the yellows Par is 70 and SSS is 69 which often goes to 68. When it does that I have to equal my PB to get cut.

Purely from my own perspective, I don't find the yellows any easier to play than the whites. My PB is the same on both and to play to shoot 7 over off either tees I have to play very well. If I'm honest, I don't play comps of the yellows that often because I can play well and shoot 8 over par and often go up 0.1.

My opinion is, if CSS always goes down or up on a certain course, the SSS needs to be adjusted accordingly. At least that way everyone would know what they had to do before they start

 

[HughJars]

First to admit i dont know Ethan & thanks for the reply.. this is prob a silly question so please bear with me , , im playing off 8 now ok .. so i bogey index's 1-8 and par indexes 9-18 thats me shooting 8 over par playing to my actual handicap and gets me 36
points ..

Again apologies if its a stupid question

You're only playing to your handicap if Par = SSS.

 

[Foxholer]

My opinion is, if CSS always goes down or up on a certain course, the SSS needs to be adjusted accordingly. At least that way everyone would know what they had to do before they start

I'd agree with that - at Southern clubs, in Summer. At Scottish clubs, the weather plays a huge part in the scoring on any day. in the Midlands and a bit of the North, there is a bit of variety. The actual range for being at SSS is quite large, Annoyingly, the times I've been cut are too frequently also hen the CSS comes down - but I can accept that's a reflection on me rather than the CSS concept!

 

[bladeplayer]

Excuses,excuses......

I'm up to 6.5 at the mo, in the HFH comp. Still time for you to get that big late cut.......

Ha ha i wish CSS was the problem with my golf mate , Settle for 7.1 and get back where i started at this stage .. good few scratch cups at first time play courses so

Thanks for all the answers guys the penny finally dropped with me on this ha ...