Your Best UK Football Team

[Wildrover]

Banks

Neal Hansen Moore(c) Cole

Barnes Gascoigne Souness Bale

Greaves Best

Subs - Jennings, Adams, Dalgliesh, Giggs, Rush, Shearer

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Andy Goram

Danny McGrain/Willie Miller/Bobby Moore/Ashley Cole

Graeme Souness

George Best/Paul Scholes/Jimmy Johnstone

Kenny Dalglish/Denis Law

Had to leave out Pat Stanton,Jimmy Greaves,Brian Robson and Davie Cooper, very tough choices.

Can I ask you and others how Dennis Irwin qualifies for a UK team?

And who is the eleventh man in your team?

Fair shout about Irwin, put Ashley Cole in there instead.And somehow forgot to put Bobby Moore in there, he's there now.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Fair shout about Irwin, put Ashley Cole in there instead.And somehow forgot to put Bobby Moore in there, he's there now.

Don't worry, forgetting things is normal when you get to my age.

I just can't remember what that age is.

 

[Crazyface]

Banks

Neal Hansen Moore(c) Cole

Barnes Gascoigne Souness Bale

Greaves Best

Subs - Jennings, Adams, Dalgliesh, Giggs, Rush, Shearer

BARNES !!!!!?????? Peter Or the lazy other one ?

 

[drewster]

Flowers

Dicks , Adams, Hansen, G Neville

Ian Bishop (C)

Gascoigne Hoddle

Gerrard

Dalgleish Shearer

Subs.

Seaman, Bale, Ferdinand, Mcmanaman, Fowler, Irwin

 

[Liverbirdie]

77 caps for England. First choice centre half in 1986 and 1990 World Cups when England actually did ok. On a par with Killer.:rofl:

I picked him to play along side Bobby Moore in my best UK team. Needed a strong centre half, good in the air in the mould of Jack Charlton but better. None of the players you mention would have made a better centre half pairing with Moore in my opinion.

I'm not old enough to have seen Moore , but didn't he have a shocking lack of pace?

Butcher and Moore - todays gazelles would leave them for dead.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

BARNES !!!!!?????? Peter Or the lazy other one ?

Barnes lazy ?! Certainly wasn't lazy when he ripped apart teams in the league for years - one of the best wingers seen in the UK

 

[richart]

I'm not old enough to have seen Moore , but didn't he have a shocking lack of pace?

Are you saying that Jack Charlton made up for it, when we won the World Cup ? Moore didn't need great pace when he played against Brazil with Pele, Tostoa, Jairzinho in 1970, and had them all in his back pocket. Anticipation, positioning, tackling seemed to get the job done.

Surely as you are much older than me you must remember Moore ? Suprised you didn't add Ron Yeats to your list of Liverpool centre backs better than Butcher. Oh and by the way you can not have Mark Lawrenson as he played for Eire.:ears:

 

[Liverbirdie]

Are you saying that Jack Charlton made up for it, when we won the World Cup ? Moore didn't need great pace when he played against Brazil with Pele, Tostoa, Jairzinho in 1970, and had them all in his back pocket. Anticipation, positioning, tackling seemed to get the job done.

Surely as you are much older than me you must remember Moore ? Suprised you didn't add Ron Yeats to your list of Liverpool centre backs better than Butcher. Oh and by the way you can not have Mark Lawrenson as he played for Eire.:ears:

I was an apple in my dads eye at the 1970 world cup, and yes we have all seen "that" tackle of Moores.

The question I would ask is how good was Moore? Honestly, not dew-eyed nostalgia. I don't know is the honest answer.

I don't just judge players on what they have won, but Terry probably has a similar number of caps, but a lot more trophies than Butcher/Moore, what did Bobby/Pat, sorry Terry win?

I can understand picking a partnership at CB, but collectively or individually Butcher IMHO was not one of the top British CB's of the last 40 years, bloodied bandage, or not.

Lawrenson was born in Preston, so he would have chosen "Britain" instead of Eire in our alternate universe anyway.:ears:

 

[Val]

I was an apple in my dads eye at the 1970 world cup, and yes we have all seen "that" tackle of Moores.

The question I would ask is how good was Moore? Honestly, not dew-eyed nostalgia. I don't know is the honest answer.

I don't just judge players on what they have won, but Terry probably has a similar number of caps, but a lot more trophies than Moore, what did Bobby win?

I can understand picking a partnership at CB, but collectively or individually Butcher IMHO was not one of the top British CB's of the last 40 years, bloodied bandage, or not.

Lawrenson was born in Preston, so he would have chosen "Britain" instead of Eire in our alternate universe anyway.:ears:

I agree, he was no Billy McNeil

 

[richart]

I was an apple in my dads eye at the 1970 world cup, and yes we have all seen "that" tackle of Moores.

The question I would ask is how good was Moore? Honestly, not dew-eyed nostalgia. I don't know is the honest answer.

I don't just judge players on what they have won, but Terry probably has a similar number of caps, but a lot more trophies than Butcher/Moore, what did Bobby/Pat, sorry Terry win?

I can understand picking a partnership at CB, but collectively or individually Butcher IMHO was not one of the top British CB's of the last 40 years, bloodied bandage, or not.

Lawrenson was born in Preston, so he would have chosen "Britain" instead of Eire in our alternate universe anyway.:ears:

Tough paper round Peter ?

I saw most of Moores career, and he was the best English centre half I have seen. His reading of the game was superb. hardly ever broke sweat as his positional sense was the best. He also played better for England than West Ham in my opinion. He was a big match player. He actually wasn't that good as a youngster, and developed late like a lot of the top centre halves. Alan Hansen type of player, but with about 70 more International caps.

Pele said he was the best defender he played against, and that is good enough for me.

 

[richart]

LB I am not judging Butcher by a blooded headband. Hopefully in 45 years of going to games I have some idea of a decent player. Note I didn't put Paul Ince in my team.

I can't remember Butcher having too many bad games for England, and Bobby Robson seemed to think he wasn't a bad player. No nonsense player, that played for his Country when we actually were not that bad. He did play in a World Cup semi final against Germany, and didn't look too bad.

All about opinions, but to say he was not as good a centre half as Thompson, Watson, Hughes etc is a load of old ...........

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Barnes lazy ?! Certainly wasn't lazy when he ripped apart teams in the league for years - one of the best wingers seen in the UK

But only one good game for England.

 

[richart]

But only one good game for England.

The goal against Brazil earned him another 50 caps.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I was an apple in my dads eye at the 1970 world cup, and yes we have all seen "that" tackle of Moores.

The question I would ask is how good was Moore? Honestly, not dew-eyed nostalgia. I don't know is the honest answer.

I don't just judge players on what they have won, but Terry probably has a similar number of caps, but a lot more trophies than Butcher/Moore, what did Bobby/Pat, sorry Terry win?

I can understand picking a partnership at CB, but collectively or individually Butcher IMHO was not one of the top British CB's of the last 40 years, bloodied bandage, or not.

Lawrenson was born in Preston, so he would have chosen "Britain" instead of Eire in our alternate universe anyway.:ears:

How good was Bobby Moore?

Well how good was Pele and, as Rich has already said, he rated Moore above all others.

I know you weren't around to see him but then you didn't see Best either and you included him.

Bobby Moore = Alan Hansen and then some and I rated Hansen very, very highly.

BTW I share your opinion of Butcher. Very good but not great.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Tough paper round Peter ?

What, with these buoyish good looks (or the shape of one).

I saw most of Moores career, and he was the best English centre half I have seen.
His reading of the game was superb. hardly ever broke sweat as his positional sense was the best. - Same for Hansen.
He also played better for England than West Ham in my opinion. - Read Scotland/Liverpool
He was a big match player. He actually wasn't that good as a youngster, and developed late like a lot of the top centre halves. - Same for Hansen

Alan Hansen type of player, but with about 70 more International caps - But 4 European cups less

Pele said he was the best defender he played against, and that is good enough for me. Pele was overrated, Hansen had to play against Alan Brazil, Gary Birtles, Brian Mclair, Peter Davenport - all in Man U's pantheon of greats Only joking on the last bits.

TBH its not fair for me to compare Moore to Hansen as I've never seen Moore. Different eras also.

Lawrenson and Hansen were fantastic and I've swapped Lawrenson for Terry, as Terry was a great leader and a fantastic defender, who has great positional sense. His ability in the air was superior to lawrensons, although Lawros tackling was beyond compare, his pace frightening, and he was good on the ball also.

Sorry, Butcher was a good defender but not great IMHO, no matter how many England caps he won.

 

[Liverbirdie]

How good was Bobby Moore?

Well how good was Pele and, as Rich has already said, he rated Moore above all others.

I know you weren't around to see him but then you didn't see Best either and you included him.

Bobby Moore = Alan Hansen and then some and I rated Hansen very, very highly.

I did qualify and make an exception for Best, based on my dads unbiased reports, as I said.

Moore I cant comment on as much as Best, as they didn't cover him as much on the available 3 channels, Mickie.

 

[richart]

How good was Bobby Moore?

Well how good was Pele and, as Rich has already said, he rated Moore above all others.

I know you weren't around to see him but then you didn't see Best either and you included him.

Bobby Moore = Alan Hansen and then some and I rated Hansen very, very highly.

BTW I share your opinion of Butcher. Very good but not great.

As I previously said, I picked Butcher to play alongside Moore. I wanted a Jack Charlton type of player, as that is who Moore played best with. Needed an attacking centre half that was good in the air. Someone that could play against a strong forward the likes of Shearer, Jordan, Ferdinand etc.

Looking at some of the teams selected they are just a group of individuals. Some have two right backs, some have four attacking midfielders, and two strikers. They remind me of the Spurs team when Klinsmann played for them. Good going forward but never going to win the league.

I have tried to pick players that could play as a team. One of the reasons I picked Gary Neville and David Beckham. Good going forward, but also great at covering back.

If I just picked the 11 best players I have seen, there would be one defender, and ten attacking players. Everone knows it is easier to stop goals, than create them , and scoring is the hardest part of the game.:thup:

 

[Deleted member 18588]

As I previously said, I picked Butcher to play alongside Moore. I wanted a Jack Charlton type of player, as that is who Moore played best with. Needed an attacking centre half that was good in the air. Someone that could play against a strong forward the likes of Shearer, Jordan, Ferdinand etc.

Looking at some of the teams selected they are just a group of individuals. Some have two right backs, some have four attacking midfielders, and two strikers. They remind me of the Spurs team when Klinsmann played for them. Good going forward but never going to win the league.

I have tried to pick players that could play as a team. One of the reasons I picked Gary Neville and David Beckham. Good going forward, but also great at covering back.

If I just picked the 11 best players I have seen, there would be one defender, and ten attacking players. Everone knows it is easier to stop goals, than create them , and scoring is the hardest part of the game.:thup:

I get your point but in that case Terry is a far better choice than Butcher. Just as strong in the air and on the ground but with more pace and better distribution. IMO

 

[richart]

I get your point but in that case Terry is a far better choice than Butcher. Just as strong in the air and on the ground but with more pace and better distribution. IMO

Not for me, never thought of Terry for his pace, and anyway I can't stand the bloke and it is my team.:ears: