2blue
Journeyman Pro
At ours its part of the annual Membership.... its not shown seperately.
WHS doesn't work
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rosecott
Money List Winner
Our Union/EG fees are shown as an additional charge on top of membership fees and are shown as £18.90 for both male and female members.
rulefan
Tour Winner
EG had been planning this for a while. The story I was getting at the time was that some clubs were pumping up their figures in order to make themselves seem to be very popular. If EG (may have been EGU) had used the CDH count they would have a reduced income. However some counties took a different view and reckoned some clubs were under declaring and they didn't want to upset them by telling them they had to pay more.Perhaps I can provide a link then…….The WHS database will be used in the future ( I think from 2024) as the source data for the number of playing members in each club to calculate the affiliation fees.
link established
IJames
Active member
That's an accounting exercise, so not unexpected, but doesn't really answer the question in my post!
NearHull
Well-known member
I think it does really. It is swept up as one of the costs of running the club. Revenue comes mainly from subscriptions but also from bar and catering, competitions, visitor green fees and Opens. Hence a percentage of the non- subscription income also pays for affiliation fees.
eta. I feel that a discussion on how each Club manages its accounts isn’t central to the main point of this thread and I will (hopefully) desist from going down this rabbit hole any further.
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IJames
Active member
Given that the entire thread - indeed, from post #1 - is based on a false assumption (that implementing WHS will mean that there's that same chance that a low capper will win any specific comp as a high capper) any 'hijacking' or rabbit hole to areas outside of WHS (and in this case it was BB's claim that SG's levy was a cost to the club, not the player) are reasonable imo!
But I'll step back out of the thread with 1 final point (I'd use 'argument' but don't want to start one!!),,, I believe it's the players that pay the levy, whether it be to EG or SG, as opposed to it being a charge on the club (which is just a convenient mehod of gathering the payments)!
Jeez! What a way that was to start a morning!!
I now need to go and chill out, after breakfst, by smacking some golf balls to random parts of a field! Then, hopefully watching some proper golf from The Masters!
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Mel Smooth
Hacker
Went out yesterday with the youth on our easier course - slope rating of 104 in comparison to 135 on the big course.
I played to my handicap - nett 66 - no change to my index.
The youth shot a nett 65, one under par, and has gone up by 0.8 ....
Absolutely no idea......
I played to my handicap - nett 66 - no change to my index.
The youth shot a nett 65, one under par, and has gone up by 0.8 ....
Absolutely no idea......
rulefan
Tour Winner
It would seem a better score fell out of the last 20.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
Nett scores mean nothing in terms of handicap adjustment.
Nett scores meant everything in the old system in terms of handicap adjustment.
Now it is average of best eight out of twenty gross scores that determine handicap assessment and adjustment.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
We show it on our website* and we see it on our annual invoice. * some might miss it because you have to scroll down to misc fees
The rule used to be that a player was not required to pay it for each club they were a member of . I suppose it was up to the member to bring it to the attention of each club and presumably pay it at the club that is responsible for administering their handicap.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
It all means nothing to me tbh. I'll just keep putting cards in and let the fancy computer system do the rest
The youths handicap is a good few shots too high, he hacked it round yesterday - played better than his hcap, and got an increase - we've only got 10 cards for the youth and 11 for myself since we came back from Spain so I guess that could be affecting the average a little.
He's got a medal on Thursday, so we'll see how his result in that affects it.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
At the moment forget the best of 8 . It works like this until you have 20 inIt all means nothing to me tbh. I'll just keep putting cards in and let the fancy computer system do the rest
The youths handicap is a good few shots too high, he hacked it round yesterday - played better than his hcap, and got an increase - we've only got 10 cards for the youth and 11 for myself since we came back from Spain so I guess that could be affecting the average a little.
He's got a medal on Thursday, so we'll see how his result in that affects it.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
So if the average 3 lowest scores count, why would his HI be affected by a score which is not deemed to be in the lowest 3? I'll stick the graph up of his record so far....
wjemather
Well-known member
His Handicap Index was 29.5 before yesterday's round and has remained the same - this is confirmed by the HI worm, which displays the Handicap Index as at the time the round was played.
The 0.8 increase came after the previous round (the 9th score) when the HI became the average of the best 3 rather than the best 2.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
I have been a memeber of two clubs, the first a privately owned club, the fees were included in the annaul quoted subscription. The second a member owned club showed it as a seperate line on the invoice. Interestingly we took play more golf members who were only required to pay the fee if they wanted to have a handicap. It would seem to me though that however clubs choose to account for it, these fee's are a charge on the individual and not on the club. The club merely collects the monies on behalf of the associations.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Can you show the Score Differentials ?
I think that was the case when I first got mine, but much later 2006. Got given 24. Moved yo Inverness and rapidly improved. I'm competitive by nature and like to do things to the best of my ability. Was down to 12 in just over a month. Didn't win any big prizes as I was a complete novice and didn't play the weekend comps in that time all the winning pots were the midweek roll up comps.
sunshine
Well-known member
My subscription notice lists an EG fee of £11. I'm being ripped off! Who should I approach to claim back my £1.50 - EG or the golf club?
D-S
Well-known member
The golf club - they're collecting it on behalf of EG and the County and have to advise the County of all members from whom they have collected the money.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Does it list a County fee also?
