GB72
Money List Winner
Good point, most people have no complaint about using GPS systems if you are willing to share the yardages etc.
What is it about Skycaddie's/GPS etc etc ?????
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Good point, most people have no complaint about using GPS systems if you are willing to share the yardages etc.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I agree with Chris on this one - it isn't right that we can use them. it does take away the skill of judging distance.
Am I going to use one?
You bet your damn life I am!!!!
Am I going to use one?
You bet your damn life I am!!!!
andiritchie
Journeyman Pro
You still have to hit the ball to the yardage given thats the skill in the game.
Gps is just a digital strokesaver you cant be against those too.
Many times a can play 9 holes,make a decent swing and come up short every hole by guessing at least with gps its my swing to blame not my estimating
Gps is just a digital strokesaver you cant be against those too.
Many times a can play 9 holes,make a decent swing and come up short every hole by guessing at least with gps its my swing to blame not my estimating
User 105
Journeyman Pro
I have no problem in sharing the info, would happily do so. He's just doesn't believe in their use full stop.
I won't get into a row with him over using it, it's not worth it. If he feels that strongly I leave it in the car, just looking for a way to placate him.
TonyN
Money List Winner
GPS outside assitance.
What does that make a caddy?
ChrisMc I had thios same rant about 6-7 months ago maybe, am sure some will remember it, but at the time I had never even used one.
I used mine today and wow, I already know the day I forget it or the battery dies halfway round, I will actually cry a little and get a titty lip on.
I only played 9 holes with it but it was just unreal how much help it was.
* No pacing out distances from dodgy markers
* No guessing carry distances over hazards
* No pacing out the difference in winter tee yards to normal tee yards
* I knew exactly how far i hit each drive/approach etc.
The amount of markers that are wrong on our course is unreal. We have black bollard posts at 150, I was told by the course staff these are to the centre. Some are and some either aint or are wrong. I stood at one today and the SC told me 170 to the middle. I always assumed I messed that approach up in the past taking a 7. nnow I know it should have been a 5.
Knowing how long the green is, is also a massive advantage. How many times have you wanted to take an extra club but didnt through fear of going to long. I found today for most approaches, I could of got away with hitting either a 7,8 or 9 and still have been on the green.
I love the sky caddie its the best £97 I ever spent.
And I am renaming my to The skydaddy its that good
What does that make a caddy?
ChrisMc I had thios same rant about 6-7 months ago maybe, am sure some will remember it, but at the time I had never even used one.
I used mine today and wow, I already know the day I forget it or the battery dies halfway round, I will actually cry a little and get a titty lip on.
I only played 9 holes with it but it was just unreal how much help it was.
* No pacing out distances from dodgy markers
* No guessing carry distances over hazards
* No pacing out the difference in winter tee yards to normal tee yards
* I knew exactly how far i hit each drive/approach etc.
The amount of markers that are wrong on our course is unreal. We have black bollard posts at 150, I was told by the course staff these are to the centre. Some are and some either aint or are wrong. I stood at one today and the SC told me 170 to the middle. I always assumed I messed that approach up in the past taking a 7. nnow I know it should have been a 5.
Knowing how long the green is, is also a massive advantage. How many times have you wanted to take an extra club but didnt through fear of going to long. I found today for most approaches, I could of got away with hitting either a 7,8 or 9 and still have been on the green.
I love the sky caddie its the best £97 I ever spent.
And I am renaming my to The skydaddy its that good
theeaglehunter
Tour Winner
£97 - I thought my £130 delivered deal in november was good!
As others have said, skycaddies provide nothing that wasn't available before if you were willing to pace out every shot etc, they just make it easier and more accurate. You will really struggle to justify your dislike of them however you are entitled to your opinion.
you don't know what you're missing out on though!
As others have said, skycaddies provide nothing that wasn't available before if you were willing to pace out every shot etc, they just make it easier and more accurate. You will really struggle to justify your dislike of them however you are entitled to your opinion.
you don't know what you're missing out on though!
ademac
Q-School Graduate
chrismc,
I said the same sort of thing about 3 weeks ago and got lots of the same reply's. I still haven't used one and still think they're a bit of a contentious issue for me, but I'm starting to think "if you can't beat 'em,join 'em!"
If this is the way golf is heading then I don't want to be left behind!
I said the same sort of thing about 3 weeks ago and got lots of the same reply's. I still haven't used one and still think they're a bit of a contentious issue for me, but I'm starting to think "if you can't beat 'em,join 'em!"
If this is the way golf is heading then I don't want to be left behind!
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I agree that we shouldn't get down on ChrisMc. However I would be interested to find out how many people on here were anti GPS before say June 2008 and have since been converted into getting one, especially as a present for Christmas. Certainly the posts pre-Christmas seemed to indicate that Santa would be delivering a few and that there were others waiting for the sales to get one.
For what its worth I wouldn't be without mine. I'm off to Temple Golf Club near Maidenhead tomorrow and have never played there. I have got the course safely downloaded onto SC5 so even if they don't have a strokesaver (I normally buy one at every club I play so will get one anyway) I will know exactly how far I'm left on each hole which should make clubbing much easier and aacurate.
I sort of understand where ChrisMc is coming from and it is clearly something he doesn't agree with and that is fine. I think however as these devices both develop (recording scores etc) and come down in price there will be a general acceptance in much the same way as the hybrid is now accepted as a useful club and is found in many a tour players bag instead of a 3 iron despite their obvious talent.
For what its worth I wouldn't be without mine. I'm off to Temple Golf Club near Maidenhead tomorrow and have never played there. I have got the course safely downloaded onto SC5 so even if they don't have a strokesaver (I normally buy one at every club I play so will get one anyway) I will know exactly how far I'm left on each hole which should make clubbing much easier and aacurate.
I sort of understand where ChrisMc is coming from and it is clearly something he doesn't agree with and that is fine. I think however as these devices both develop (recording scores etc) and come down in price there will be a general acceptance in much the same way as the hybrid is now accepted as a useful club and is found in many a tour players bag instead of a 3 iron despite their obvious talent.
flandango
Head Pro
I haven't used one and didn't even consider that it would help my game.
I played with murph and leftie last month and they have one (one each, not between them) and the info they give you is great.
I'm now looking for the best deal and will be my first purchase of 09 before the season starts!
ANY MORE £97 DEALS OUT THERE LET ME KNOW!!!
I played with murph and leftie last month and they have one (one each, not between them) and the info they give you is great.
I'm now looking for the best deal and will be my first purchase of 09 before the season starts!
ANY MORE £97 DEALS OUT THERE LET ME KNOW!!!
bunkered
Head Pro
So why is it still against the rules to use gps in competitions
Herbie
Tour Winner
They are a handy tool and Im sure in time they may be allowed in comps, though I have seen people use them in local club comps.
There is another problem that could fall into the catagory of ADVICE rule infringement if you share information with another player, but it depends if its a team member or oposition.
There is another problem that could fall into the catagory of ADVICE rule infringement if you share information with another player, but it depends if its a team member or oposition.
flandango
Head Pro
If you had a gps this would assist you traditionalists in your judgment of distances. The more you use it the quicker you will be able to judge an exact distance by eye.
Why take your distances from the course markers when they are rarely dead acurate.
This would just misguide you when playing other courses.
It could be used as a very effective training aid if nothing else!
Why take your distances from the course markers when they are rarely dead acurate.
This would just misguide you when playing other courses.
It could be used as a very effective training aid if nothing else!
Not illegal in I would say the majority of places only the minority,not at my club and hundreds others or PGA events for Club Pro events or the elite EGU events,it is however in SGU events despite many of the clubs where their events are being played allowing them.It will be a def new rule next time R&A do there rule revisions I would think.
http://www.pga.info/News/40870625.htm
http://www.pga.info/News/40870625.htm
rgs
Tour Rookie
ChrisMc i disagree with your view--If GPS systems are outside assistance then so to are course planners and yardage markers(correct or not).
They are allowed by the R&A subject to local rule so therefore are an acceptable piece of equipment.
They are allowed by the R&A subject to local rule so therefore are an acceptable piece of equipment.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Play one round with a mate of mine (his name is Bob Eagle...now that's a great name for a golfer!!) and you will buy him a GPS system.
I played at Celtic Manor with him once and to watch him walk up to each 150 marker and then pace it back to his ball while you are waiting to play your shot...it drove me mad!
Despite me saying "it's roughly 15 yards Bob" he still paced it out...to find he was 167 yards from the centre of the green. As if those 2 extra yards were going to make any difference whatsoever.
Playing with somebody who is so obsessed with distance yet doesn't own a gps of some description drives you mad!
I played at Celtic Manor with him once and to watch him walk up to each 150 marker and then pace it back to his ball while you are waiting to play your shot...it drove me mad!
Despite me saying "it's roughly 15 yards Bob" he still paced it out...to find he was 167 yards from the centre of the green. As if those 2 extra yards were going to make any difference whatsoever.
Playing with somebody who is so obsessed with distance yet doesn't own a gps of some description drives you mad!
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
They are legal for comps at my club, so obviously I will use my SG5 next year. I think this is the most useful piece of golf gear I have ever bought, and really am looking forward to playing in the comps next year. I have never bothered buying a course planner for my course, and knowing the front and back of the greens will be useful knowledge next year ( depending on where the pin is). This info is available to any one, given access to a planner and yardage markers, but these get stolen by kids, and it is ay quicker to use a gps. Anyone who thinks they are junk is a ludite.
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
It's not - the club just have to make a local rule allowing them (or is it the other way round?)....more clubs will now since the EGU have followed the PGA and allowed them in their competitions.....
I don't believe their actually is a valid arguement against their use.....the R&A will take a good while to go the whole hog and just allow them though I think.....
TonyN
Money List Winner
Legal in my club, have been for a while.
theeaglehunter
Tour Winner
Will be legal at my club from March following a suggestion from the Cambridge Area Golf Union that all clubs choose to make this an acceptable tool, through a local rule.
Macster
Journeyman Pro
Well, I'm clearly in the minority.
But, to me, there has to remain an element of judgement in the beautiful game, and even with a course planner prepared by Wentworth Club themselves, a Pro caddie still has to work out that yardage as best he can from the notes provided. Mostly I bet they're pretty accurate, but he has to work it out, and sometimes, it will be wrong.
That is something that the Pro has entrusted him with, otherwise he(or you) would have to judge it for yourself.
To be able to simply point something at any given point to be immediately displayed an exact yardage just seems unnaceptable to me, and I cant agree with you all.
I dont mean to be controversial, but I realy do beleive you would be a heck of a lot better players without relying on them.
Judgement and feel are an integral part of the game to me, and to have to rely on one would drive me nuts.
Hey ho.
But, to me, there has to remain an element of judgement in the beautiful game, and even with a course planner prepared by Wentworth Club themselves, a Pro caddie still has to work out that yardage as best he can from the notes provided. Mostly I bet they're pretty accurate, but he has to work it out, and sometimes, it will be wrong.
That is something that the Pro has entrusted him with, otherwise he(or you) would have to judge it for yourself.
To be able to simply point something at any given point to be immediately displayed an exact yardage just seems unnaceptable to me, and I cant agree with you all.
I dont mean to be controversial, but I realy do beleive you would be a heck of a lot better players without relying on them.
Judgement and feel are an integral part of the game to me, and to have to rely on one would drive me nuts.
Hey ho.
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