TV license

[GB72]

I wasn't referring to you specifically, it started on a previous pages. I suppose when talking about what the BBC provides the radio would spring to mind, but given that it's a TV licence discussion I don't really think it's relevant.

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I don't know, I think it has some relevance in that is forms part of the cost of the TV licence as it is used to fund BBC radio and so the licence fee would, I assume, be cheaper without funding BBC radio. I no longer listen to any main stream BBC radio. Too old for Radion One, Not a fan of the presenters of Radio Two or the music and never listened to Radio 3 or 4. Radio 5 has been going down hill for ages and drops every other sport in favour of football. Again, Radio One, Radion Two and the sports element of 5 Live are covered by no end of commercial stations. BBC local radio is great, relevant news, coverage of local sports teams, good value there. Whilst I do not need licence to listen to them, I do have to pay for them if I want a TV. Again, I would like to see the national radio budgets cut to fund local radio to a greater extent and also to fund a BBC news station on the radio. That, to me, would be public service broadcasting. You could have some shows that broadcast to all local stations, like perhaps the Sunday chart rundown/

 

[Orikoru]

I don't know, I think it has some relevance in that is forms part of the cost of the TV licence as it is used to fund BBC radio and so the licence fee would, I assume, be cheaper without funding BBC radio. I no longer listen to any main stream BBC radio. Too old for Radion One, Not a fan of the presenters of Radio Two or the music and never listened to Radio 3 or 4. Radio 5 has been going down hill for ages and drops every other sport in favour of football. Again, Radio One, Radion Two and the sports element of 5 Live are covered by no end of commercial stations. BBC local radio is great, relevant news, coverage of local sports teams, good value there. Whilst I do not need licence to listen to them, I do have to pay for them if I want a TV. Again, I would like to see the national radio budgets cut to fund local radio to a greater extent and also to fund a BBC news station on the radio. That, to me, would be public service broadcasting. You could have some shows that broadcast to all local stations, like perhaps the Sunday chart rundown/

Yeah, I suppose so. My comment was more at the people flippantly saying "oh I suppose you don't listen to the radio then" etc.

I never listen to BBC radio, aside from once a very rare blue moon if I'm in the car and there's football on and I might stick it on Five Live. The other stations though, I don't touch them. None are my cup of tea. I'm not even sure which is which out of Radio 2, 3 & 4 to be honest. I know I don't like Radio 1. I only listen to Radio X or Magic really depending on which mood I'm in - or if I'm in the car that has digital then Absolute 90s or Absolute 80s.

 

[GB72]

Yeah, I suppose so. My comment was more at the people flippantly saying "oh I suppose you don't listen to the radio then" etc.

I never listen to BBC radio, aside from once a very rare blue moon if I'm in the car and there's football on and I might stick it on Five Live. The other stations though, I don't touch them. None are my cup of tea. I'm not even sure which is which out of Radio 2, 3 & 4 to be honest. I know I don't like Radio 1. I only listen to Radio X or Magic really depending on which mood I'm in - or if I'm in the car that has digital then Absolute 90s or Absolute 80s.

I tend to listen to sport coverage on local radio. They cover the Tigers every week and so get my vote over 5 live that just want the crown jewel events and even then bump them to Sports Extra to cover football from the Beezer Homes league. I would love to see that sport budget sent to local stations to cover as many local teams as possible with a much reduced national budget to cover international sport with coverage broadcast through the local radio network.

 

[PJ87]

Yeah, I suppose so. My comment was more at the people flippantly saying "oh I suppose you don't listen to the radio then" etc.

I never listen to BBC radio, aside from once a very rare blue moon if I'm in the car and there's football on and I might stick it on Five Live. The other stations though, I don't touch them. None are my cup of tea. I'm not even sure which is which out of Radio 2, 3 & 4 to be honest. I know I don't like Radio 1. I only listen to Radio X or Magic really depending on which mood I'm in - or if I'm in the car that has digital then Absolute 90s or Absolute 80s.

It's an irrelevant myth anyways

TV licence is nothing to do with radio .. might have been in the past but it's like "road tax" hasn't been around for decades but people still wrongly refer to it

 

[jim8flog]

Why do some people seem to think you need a TV license for the radio?

You need a public broadcast licence for radio in many commercial properties.
However the money does not go to the Government it goes to those responsible for dishing out royalties.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

You need a public broadcast licence for radio in many commercial properties.
However the money does not go to the Government it goes to those responsible for dishing out royalties.

I seem to remember a radio DJ telling me it costs about £50 to play each record every time, but what they can do is buy it for unlimited use which works out massively cheaper for the station and is also the reason certain songs each month are almost hourly plays.

 

[spongebob59]

Just looking into cancelling again, have they changed the goalposts:

You can cancel your licence if you no longer:

watch TV on all channels, like BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Dave and international channels
watch TV on pay TV services, like Sky, Virgin Media and BT
watch live TV on streaming services, like YouTube and Amazon Prime Video
use BBC iPlayer*
This includes recording and downloading. On any device.

 

[PJ87]

Just looking into cancelling again, have they changed the goalposts:

You can cancel your licence if you no longer:

watch TV on all channels, like BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Dave and international channels
watch TV on pay TV services, like Sky, Virgin Media and BT
watch live TV on streaming services, like YouTube and Amazon Prime Video
use BBC iPlayer*
This includes recording and downloading. On any device.

For the sake of £14 a month I really CBA to cancel it.. I set it up by direct debit when we moved in a decade ago and forgot about it.

The amount of people who canceled last year you can just see them finding a way to go after them somehow

Don't need a man in a van these days

 

[Orikoru]

I think we should all get a partial rebate for Huw Edwards wages.

 

[spongebob59]

I think we should all get a partial rebate for Huw Edwards wages.

This is what has me considering this again.

So if I read this correctly you can't watch anything live on any platform and none of the BBC programming, which is more or less correct for me.

 

[Orikoru]

This is what has me considering this again.

So if I read this correctly you can't watch anything live on any platform and none of the BBC programming, which is more or less correct for me.

That was always the case though. You need a license to watch any live broadcast or anything on iPlayer.

 

[Pin-seeker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1818795194390896720

Good old bbc hey,worth every penny

 

[Voyager EMH]

Huw Edward's wrong doing is not linked to the BBC as an organisation nor the licence fee.

His pay after his arrest is questionable and that is being looked into, I believe.

The BBC is "old" and often it is "good".

 

[chico]

Huw Edward's wrong doing is not linked to the BBC as an organisation nor the licence fee.

His pay after his arrest is questionable and that is being looked into, I believe.

The BBC is "old" and often it is "good".

Innocent till proven guilty. They had no choice but to pay him until he was found guilty.

 

[4LEX]

Huw Edward's wrong doing is not linked to the BBC as an organisation nor the licence fee.

His pay after his arrest is questionable and that is being looked into, I believe.

The BBC is "old" and often it is "good".

Disagree. The BBC has a long history of this kind of behaviour, so much so it's actually part of it's culture. It's one of the first things you associate it with after the license fee.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Disagree. The BBC has a long history of this kind of behaviour, so much so it's actually part of it's culture. It's one of the first things you associate it with after the license fee.

By "this kind of behaviour" are you referring to the accessing of indecent images?
The BBC is not responsible for what its employees do in their own time.

Or are you referring to the alleged over payment? That in itself is not unusual - Post Office execs, PPE procurement brokers, MPs backhanders etc. - "long history".

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Disagree. The BBC has a long history of this kind of behaviour, so much so it's actually part of it's culture. It's one of the first things you associate it with after the license fee.

Sadly the Law says he had to be paid until after he was found guilty, only then can they make changes.

 

[D-S]

Sadly the Law says he had to be paid until after he was found guilty, only then can they make changes.

He resigned on ‘medical grounds’ in April, they would have a case to have sacked him then as he was charged with the offences shortly afterwards but he had already gone.
He only was guilty just now as he pleaded guilty. Up and until he resigned he had only been arrested - very tricky to sack him beforehand, then if it was discovered later that he was innocent, he would have had strong grounds for wrongful dismissal..

 

[4LEX]

By "this kind of behaviour" are you referring to the accessing of indecent images?
The BBC is not responsible for what its employees do in their own time.

Or are you referring to the alleged over payment? That in itself is not unusual - Post Office execs, PPE procurement brokers, MPs backhanders etc. - "long history".

We both know what I was referring to

The over payment is fair enough, even if it doesn't sit well in hindsight.

In fairness to the BBC, there's been two separate incidents. The first he wasn't charged for, this second one only emerged after the contact was arrested and implicated him while he was on a mental health break. It's just a very bad look for the BBC who are on their knees and losing money hand over fist. I'd argue it would've been better for them to bin him off and risk losing a million or two in unfair dismissal, than losing a lot more revenue in cancelled license fees.

 

[Voyager EMH]

We both know what I was referring to

The over payment is fair enough, even if it doesn't sit well in hindsight.

In fairness to the BBC, there's been two separate incidents. The first he wasn't charged for, this second one only emerged after the contact was arrested and implicated him while he was on a mental health break. It's just a very bad look for the BBC who are on their knees and losing money hand over fist. I'd argue it would've been better for them to bin him off and risk losing a million or two in unfair dismissal, than losing a lot more revenue in cancelled license fees.

I honestly do not know what you mean by "long history" and "this kind of behaviour" with regard to BBC as a whole.

The overpayment to Huw Edwards is explainable although highly unlikeable. And this is being scrutinised.

I am more concerned by things like £1 billion borrowed from the banks by a water company to pay £1 billion in share dividends and then the cost being passed on to us bill payers and a lack of scrutiny and accountability of this kind of behaviour.
PPE contracts
Horizon scandal
etc etc